Author: Andrew Williams
Date: 15:23:50 11/27/03
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On November 27, 2003 at 18:19:02, Bob Durrett wrote: >On November 27, 2003 at 18:09:33, Andrew Williams wrote: > >>On November 27, 2003 at 18:06:37, Bob Durrett wrote: >> >>>On November 27, 2003 at 17:59:08, Andrew Williams wrote: >>> >>>>On November 27, 2003 at 17:55:19, Bob Durrett wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 27, 2003 at 17:42:58, margolies,marc wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>These are not charges based upon LIST's <<performance>> in a direct >>>>>>way--Although all of LIST's defenders offer counter-proof regarding different >>>>>>performance characteristics between Crafty and LIST. >>>>>>The charge is PLAGIARISM-- lifting of (some)code. The Programmer in question has >>>>>>not responded to the commitee's request for proof with a defense (according to >>>>>>Levy's Report--I have no direct knowledge) therefore the Commitee had to act to >>>>>>protect the legitimacy of the Tournament. Also the commitee's action were a >>>>>>response to a complaint by an (unnamed) tournament participant who has standing >>>>>>to do so. >>>>> >>>>>The "committee" has no legal authority. Plagiarism is a violation of law, at >>>>>least in some Countries. The individual suffering damages from plagiarism can >>>>>seek and obtain compensation in a duly constituted Civil Court of Law. The >>>>>"committee" is NOT a Court of Law. They have no business trying to pretend >>>>>otherwise. They run risks by their own actions. They have no authority to >>>>>judge and punish someone for a law violation and they have no authority to >>>>>create their own laws either. In other words, this "committee" has put itself >>>>>out on a very fragile limb. Let's just hope that the programmer has a very good >>>>>sense of humor. >>>>> >>>>>Bob D. >>>> >>>>This is ridiculous. The tournament is a competition which is held under the >>>>auspices of the ICGA. They set some rules. They are entitled to hold the >>>>participants to those rules. >>> >>>Tournament Directors and the ICGA are not immune. Tournament Directors can and >>>have been sued in the past. Sometimes their authority goes to their heads and >>>they assume that they have more authority than they have. Incidentally, in case >>>you wonder, I NEVER had any problem with tournament directors. Maybe that's >>>because I always followed the rules. >>> >>>Bob D. >> >>The point is that the TDs can't be sued or censured in any way if they have >>followed their own rules. It doesn't matter what their rules are, because by >>entering the competition, List's author agreed to them. The question therefore >>doesn't relate to rules outside of the ICGA's remit - it only relates to the >>extent to which the organization's own rules were followed. >> >>Andrew > >Well, this is not the right place for a legal debate. You must admit, however, >that someone really did make a bad decision. > >Incidentally, I have just made up one of my new rules: It's OK for me to rob a >bank. I wonder whether or not my following my own rules will be sufficient >defense in a REAL court of law if I am caught? > Only if the bank agreed to your rules. >Oh well, it's getting absurd. Let's just hang Vincent and be done with it. > >: ) > >Bob D. > I don't know of any reason to believe that Vincent was involved. AW
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