Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:05:28 11/16/98
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On November 15, 1998 at 05:51:11, Oliver Y. wrote: > > >On November 14, 1998 at 10:42:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 13, 1998 at 02:39:10, David Blackman wrote: >> >>>On November 12, 1998 at 19:36:02, Chris Moreton wrote: >>> >>>>I am the author of Rival chess which has a rating floating around 2000-2100 on >>>>the ICC while I feel good if I stay above 1000 for any length of time. Is their >>>>anywhere I can find out how other authors rate against their own programs? >>>> >>>>-Chris >>> >>>I don't know of any authoratative source about this, but the short answer is >>>that most programmers would be completely smashed by their own programs, unless >>>they are quite new to chess programming and still have a very weak program. >>> >>>One possible exception is Peter McKenzie, author of LambChop, who posts here >>>occasionally. Peter is a former New Zealand champion, and although i don't think >>>he has a FIDE title, he could not be far below IM strength. Lambchop is a >>>reasonably strong program, especially for its positional play, but i think Peter >>>would have some chance against it if he played seriously. >>> >>>My own program, Desperado, is much stronger than i am, and it is definatly not >>>one of the strongest programs out there. (My Australian rating is 1504. >>>Desperado hasn't competed much against rated players recently but might be about >>>2000. An earlier version once managed to fluke a win against an IM.) >> >> >>I occasionally beat Crafty, at full strength, but it isn't exactly about >>"chess" when I do. I have to (a) avoid a tactical mistake which is hard >>against crafty, (b) play into positions where I think it might not be able >>to whip up some sort of tactical activity, and (c) I use specific knowledge >>about what it does well and what it doesn't do well to help guide me. I >>probably win around 1 of every 20 games I play, when the games are longer (ie >>not blitz) so I can try to avoid tactical mistakes. But this is really helped >>because I know the program so well, particularly how it evaluates positions. >>It isn't "easy" to exploit it, but every now and then I get away with it. Of >>course, 1 out of 20 is not exactly spectacular... > >Robert, >Would you be so kind as to share with us those scores where you have won? >It may enhance the fun we all might have with Crafty-who knows what we might >learn. I don't save them, generally, but will certainly post the next one. I don't keep them because I average about 100-200 games played per day on the chess servers... that's about all the log files I can stand. :)
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