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Subject: Re: Why ban List now?

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 20:11:36 11/27/03

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On November 27, 2003 at 22:21:42, margolies,marc wrote:

>bob durrett, this issue isn't crafty. The issue is ethics.
>plagiarism. and the programmer of LIST.
>so the ultimate expert on Crafty does not need to be called into the middle of
>this in order for IGCA to execute the rules of its charter. because it is not
>about crafty. it is about honesty. the programmer of list does not answer-- it
>is said.
>as this is becoming so charged, it is all for the good that the complainant
>wasn't named. we should judge the program and the programmer's copliance to the
>rules of the event, not the complainant nor dr. hyatt. dr hyatt, after all, did
>not enter the event and dr hyatt did not make the charges.
>if i had to imagine a circumstance which would involve RH, that would be giving
>someone permission to use part of his code in a competing program. even so,
>attribution is part of the ethical process, it had to have been acknowledged if
>it happenned. the programmer of list has not addressed this, it is said.

Your point of view is interesting.

Where I live, in the USA, we have some "crimes against the state" which are
tried in a criminal court.  Robbing a bank, for example, is regarded as a
Felony, a crime against the State.  Even if the Bank did not want the bank
robber to be prosecuted, the State would do it anyway.

Perhaps the esteemed "committee" decided that the List programmer's offense was
the WCCC equivalent of a Felony?  In other words, they should prosecute and then
punish the "felon"?

Or, maybe the committee felt that it's charter was to treat "ethical" breaches
as being their version of felonies.  Hence, they zapped their poor victim
without a trial.  That's justice, vigilante style, I'm sure you will agree.

There was some talk about the WCCC charter having to consult "experts" before
they could met out their brand of justice.  Why did they not seek the one and
only one expert who could, if anybody could, say whether or not the offending
software was of the "crafty type"?

Their failure to consult Hyatt is very incriminating in my humble opinion.

Bob D.



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