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Subject: Re: here's my $.02

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 11:56:03 11/28/03

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On November 28, 2003 at 14:50:00, Daniel Clausen wrote:

>On November 28, 2003 at 12:41:14, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>I think this was handled very very badly, perhaps correct under the rules of the
>>tournament, but still very badly overall.
>>
>>My suggestion to prevent this from happening in the future is to have strict
>>time lines BEFORE and AFTER the tournament for one to question the "legality" of
>>a program, but not during the tournament.  Especially in light of these
>>artificial deadlines made to author while studying for his exams. (why the rush
>>to judgment? IMO, the organizers were very heavy handed in how this was
>>conducted - esp. with the ultimatums and the like)  There would have been plenty
>>of time to address these issues after the tournament.  If porgram was found to
>>be illegal after the tournament . all the games should be discarded, not just a
>>select few.
>>
>>Instead , we  have a tournament that has been swallowed up by this controversy
>>and it will be forever tainted.
>>
>>Perhaps a bright and promising programmer that may have nothing to do with ICGA
>>or even computer chess again.  Is this a correct result if he is innocent?
>>
>>Again just my $.02, your mileage may vary, opposing views welcome.
>
>I agree with everything you said, but would like to add that the programmer of
>List also didn't behave very clever. Exams etc are no excuse to not answer a
>simple email or give them a call. He didn't give the tournament responsibles an
>option once they made their last proposal.
>
>The decisions made (by both sides) can't be cancelled now. What still can be
>done though is to find out whether List is a clone or not. I think that's very
>important for the CC community. As a start, it would be good to hear the
>programmers POV in this case.
>
>Sargon

Yes, and to hear the information seen by the other participants.

Bob D.



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