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Subject: Re: Could Junior, Fritz, Shredder, HIARCS & Tiger be Clones of Crafty? : )

Author: José Carlos

Date: 12:09:05 11/28/03

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On November 28, 2003 at 14:47:21, Bob Durrett wrote:

>
>After all, who is to offer PROOF that it isn't so?  For the Junior, Fritz,
>Shredder, HIARCS & Tiger programmers to offer proof, they would have to reveal
>their source code, which they surely will not do.
>
>Hyatt has often said that his code is not optimized.  Maybe the front-runner
>commercial programs are just improved versions of Crafty!  If Crafty can be made
>100 points better by an attorney, what could talented chess programmers
>accomplish?
>
>: )
>
>Bob D.

  I don't think this is the case, and I'm sure you're joking, but I guess they
all have read Crafty's source. And probably they got at least one interesting
idea they implemented (IIRC, I read that latest Fritz doesn't take the trojan
horse, for example).
  The fact is that as soon as you know something, you can't prevent it from
affecting your future decisions. I might read Crafty now, not take any single
idea, and come up with a new (to me) idea in 2010 that is in Crafty today. I
can't be sure whether I invented it because I had forgotten Crafty or I just got
it from the deep of my most forgoten memory...
  Is it "bad" that other programs have Crafty's ideas? I don't think so. It's
bad to copy and paste a move generator or an evaluation function, but if you
read, understand, and then put the idea in your program I don't think it can be
bad in any sense.

  José C.



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