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Subject: Re: here's my $.02

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 12:28:46 11/28/03

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On November 28, 2003 at 15:24:55, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On November 28, 2003 at 14:50:00, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>
>>On November 28, 2003 at 12:41:14, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>I think this was handled very very badly, perhaps correct under the rules of the
>>>tournament, but still very badly overall.
>>>
>>>My suggestion to prevent this from happening in the future is to have strict
>>>time lines BEFORE and AFTER the tournament for one to question the "legality" of
>>>a program, but not during the tournament.  Especially in light of these
>>>artificial deadlines made to author while studying for his exams. (why the rush
>>>to judgment? IMO, the organizers were very heavy handed in how this was
>>>conducted - esp. with the ultimatums and the like)  There would have been plenty
>>>of time to address these issues after the tournament.  If porgram was found to
>>>be illegal after the tournament . all the games should be discarded, not just a
>>>select few.
>>>
>>>Instead , we  have a tournament that has been swallowed up by this controversy
>>>and it will be forever tainted.
>>>
>>>Perhaps a bright and promising programmer that may have nothing to do with ICGA
>>>or even computer chess again.  Is this a correct result if he is innocent?
>>>
>>>Again just my $.02, your mileage may vary, opposing views welcome.
>>
>>I agree with everything you said, but would like to add that the programmer of
>>List also didn't behave very clever. Exams etc are no excuse to not answer a
>>simple email or give them a call. He didn't give the tournament responsibles an
>>option once they made their last proposal.
>>
>>The decisions made (by both sides) can't be cancelled now. What still can be
>>done though is to find out whether List is a clone or not. I think that's very
>>important for the CC community. As a start, it would be good to hear the
>>programmers POV in this case.
>>
>>Sargon
>
>It is unfortunate what is done is "done".

There is something called "damage control."  Perhaps the tournament organizers
should think about that.

Bob D.



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