Author: jefkaan
Date: 14:43:07 11/28/03
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On November 28, 2003 at 16:18:04, Roberto Nerici wrote: >I can't see any risk in someone seeing List's code who wasn't meant to see agree, but.. an accusation that some new program is a 'crafty clone' is an old story, and an easy accusation, maybe as most people know Crafty. In fact there are many open source chess programs, and some of them are quite good quality; any skilled programmer could have a look at such sources, and to the theory of chess programming, and come up with a new program. But then he should ofcourse be honest about it, especially in the beginning, or when participating in tournaments. After a while, when trying to advance the program further the program would either be deviating more and more from the original sources, thus becoming less of a 'clone', or the programmer would even make some giant step backwards and decide to start all over again, i.e. starting from scratch. Either way its a difficult and timeconsuming process. So if a program isnt completely made from scratch, well so what, i would say, no need to reinvent the alfa/beta routines yourself, you know :) And no need for a witch hunt, which anyway the programmer could easily avoid by providing more openness about the sources and/or show parts of it to an independent and uncommercial intermediate person, like eg. prof Heinz. But in the case of well-established programs as Tiger, Shredder, Quest/Fritz, Junior, etc. well personally i dont see why they should be obliged to show their source codes (or even part of it, to an intermediary); their playing strength by itself already is enough reason to participate as independent program, isnt it ? ok not all of you may agree with my view, but its currently how i see it and quite frankly i find the whole thing about disqualification (of List) a bit overdone (even although the decision appears to be right) Nowadays opening books are anyway getting more and more important, compared to simple little engines :)))))))))))))
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