Author: Djordje Vidanovic
Date: 19:18:39 11/28/03
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On November 28, 2003 at 11:43:20, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote: >Hi Djordje, > >this is an interesting setup idea as well. >A good opening book (and I am sure yours is) is an extremely important weapon. > >So you are saying > >Original Crafty + your book > >is 20 Elo points or more better than > >Crafty improved by me + original crafty book > > >I would need to really scrutinise Craftys original book to see how good/bad it >is before. Or am I allowed to use the best book I can come up with myself ? I >think that would make the setup too tough for you, especially because no one >could verify I did not copy a commercial book. >Maybe a middle ground would be to say I may use the best automatically generated >book by crafty I can come up with, from a givem gamebase like corbits 2600+ ? > >What do you think ? > >What do you mean by "I am not a law student" ? We are not trying to make fun of >me, are we ? :-) > >Georg > > > > >On November 28, 2003 at 08:28:52, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: > >>I'll wager another bet for you: I bet that I can improve Crafty to be at least >>20 ELO points stronger than any Crafty you improve on. As referees you can pick >>any of the well-known programmers (it may be entirely up to you to name them). >>Now we can talk about the time-frame of our little experiment. >> >>NB 1: I am not a law student. >>NB 2: I am ready to wager 5000 Euro. >> >>Djordje Hello Georg, I was certainly not trying to make fun of you. I was trying to be a little funny myself, that's all. I only referred to your being a law student because someone else said something related to that, having in mind a potential legal catch in your original posting. Now that you seem to have swallowed the bait, we could actually perform the experiment even though I never really meant it. You got me interested, so why not? I would not mind your using the 2600.pgn file as a source for an automated book at all. I'd simply kill you with that one. Be my guest though and try it. We could even set a deadline both for you and me (I am on my sabbatical, slowly writing a book -- an academic project -- and relaxing reading the stuff on CCC :)); say 3 or 4 months from now... The wager was, of course, just a harmless and a bit silly joke -- I don't actually have all that money, nor would I wager it on this kind of thing if I had it. You may be extremely successful in modifying Crafty, but I still think that Bob must be doing a better job than you :-) So, Bob's orignal current version of Crafty + my book against your modified Crafty + an automated book based on the 2600.pgn? Deal? Whoever loses buys 3 six packs of Grolsch to the other party? Loss for you means that my Crafty + book perform at least 20 points better than yours... Win for you that the margin is less or even worse, that "my" Crafty loses... Intrigued and mildly satisfied that I managed to bait you. Djordje
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