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Subject: Re: Could Junior, Fritz, Shredder, HIARCS & Tiger be Clones of Crafty?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:29:31 11/28/03

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On November 28, 2003 at 16:26:13, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 28, 2003 at 15:44:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 28, 2003 at 14:47:21, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>After all, who is to offer PROOF that it isn't so?  For the Junior, Fritz,
>>>Shredder, HIARCS & Tiger programmers to offer proof, they would have to reveal
>>>their source code, which they surely will not do.
>>>
>>>Hyatt has often said that his code is not optimized.  Maybe the front-runner
>>>commercial programs are just improved versions of Crafty!  If Crafty can be made
>>>100 points better by an attorney, what could talented chess programmers
>>>accomplish?
>>>
>>>: )
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>
>>I'm not sure this angle of discussion is helping.  IE the situation is already
>>very bad.  Hyperbole about it is not helping anyone.  IE a reputation is already
>>damaged, the tournament results are suspect, nothing good can happen now.
>
>OK.  Since you ask me to, I'll "cool it."  It was just a joke, but intended to
>point out the impossibility of resolving the "cloning issue."
>
>Bob D.


I understood your "humor".  However, think about how this all fees to
the author that was expelled.  My point was that the longer the discussion
continues, the greater his embarassment...

That is why I have not responded very much, yet I appear to be one of the
two "principles" in the problem, albeit indirectly in my case.



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