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Subject: Re: Could Junior, Fritz, Shredder, HIARCS & Tiger be Clones of Crafty?

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 21:43:09 11/28/03

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On November 28, 2003 at 23:29:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 28, 2003 at 16:26:13, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On November 28, 2003 at 15:44:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On November 28, 2003 at 14:47:21, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>After all, who is to offer PROOF that it isn't so?  For the Junior, Fritz,
>>>>Shredder, HIARCS & Tiger programmers to offer proof, they would have to reveal
>>>>their source code, which they surely will not do.
>>>>
>>>>Hyatt has often said that his code is not optimized.  Maybe the front-runner
>>>>commercial programs are just improved versions of Crafty!  If Crafty can be made
>>>>100 points better by an attorney, what could talented chess programmers
>>>>accomplish?
>>>>
>>>>: )
>>>>
>>>>Bob D.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm not sure this angle of discussion is helping.  IE the situation is already
>>>very bad.  Hyperbole about it is not helping anyone.  IE a reputation is already
>>>damaged, the tournament results are suspect, nothing good can happen now.
>>
>>OK.  Since you ask me to, I'll "cool it."  It was just a joke, but intended to
>>point out the impossibility of resolving the "cloning issue."
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>
>I understood your "humor".  However, think about how this all fees to
>the author that was expelled.  My point was that the longer the discussion
>continues, the greater his embarassment...
>
>That is why I have not responded very much, yet I appear to be one of the
>two "principles" in the problem, albeit indirectly in my case.

No good deed goes unpunished, Robert.  You're old and wise, surely you've
learned that lesson before.  :)



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