Author: jefkaan
Date: 00:46:32 11/29/03
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On November 28, 2003 at 18:39:49, Uri Blass wrote: >Law should be equal to all. >I see no reason to allow Fransh morsh not to give his source code to Heinz and >not to allow other programmers to do the same. ok, but only if requested; it would be a surprise for the organizers indeed to see that some top programs could contain some code snippets of well known and published routines (like nullmove, etc.); in fact, they either should request *all* programs should be completely from scratch, or.. they should relax their requirements that the program is not allowed to contain parts of other programs (which led to this rather paranoid,but probably correct accusation against List about plagiarism etc.). > >>opening books are anyway getting more important > >in list4.60 and list4.60 has no book so I do not see how it can be book >cloning. i didnt mention book cloning, although he very well may have cloned the book create routine from Crafty; i mentioned books as another important factor, just to point out the childish behaviour of some engine programmers who dont seem to be aware that in such a tournament they just play in a lottery anyway (which gives ridiculous results by definition, as in a Swiss tournament no difference is being made in resistance points between playing with white and playing with black; but playing with white still has an advantage also for computers). Computer chess used to be fun but such events as this 'world championship' appear to be just simple hardware races by some overcompetitive software geeks; if i would had to decide about List i would have kept him in, but with a notification in the endresult that it wouldnt be an official ranking (for List) as the program still might contain too much public code snippets; thats all, no big deal about plagiarism and other heavy accusations. best regards, jef > >Uri
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