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Subject: Re: you're wrong

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 00:55:10 11/29/03

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On November 29, 2003 at 03:44:32, swaminathan natarajan wrote:

>On November 29, 2003 at 03:34:21, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On November 29, 2003 at 03:21:09, swaminathan natarajan wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>try
>>>List 5.04 vs crafty 17.11(i'm not sure 17.11 or 17.10)
>>>crafty for fritz 6
>>>they are of same strenght and produce similar results
>>
>>LIST 504 is stronger...
>>
>>>why do they(some CCC people including Amir Ban) compare analysis of crafty
>>>19.03(latest version) with List 5.04
>>
>>I don't think anyone has compared it to a specific version, except you!
>>
>>>search for the date of List 5.04 release
>>>then search for the version of crafty which was released before that date
>>>crafty version must be older must be before 17.10
>>
>>504 is new.  ~3 months or so.
>>
>>>then check analysis of all crafty versions which came before date of list
>>>release
>>
>>I have 17.11.  It's not the same at all.  I tried 17.11 and it plays the same
>>moves as 19.06, which are different from LIST 504!
>>
>>>another secret kept by Reul
>>>
>>>Fritz Reul didnt mention the programming language he used for List,the question
>>>in wbec-ridderkerk info pages
>>
>>So he can clone a Crafty 100+ points stronger than Crafty, but he's not smart
>>enough to know what language he's using?  COME ON!
>>
>>>and wait for a day to come
>>>Ruffian leiden version had already been inspected by ICGA
>>>why wouldnt Reul give the source to the David Levy?
>>
>>The same reason he wasn't in Graz, maybe?  He had more pressing issues?
>>
>>>using Hex editor to view .dll files
>>>it had been found that author had used some 6 or 7 files name same as crafty's
>>>how could that be?
>>
>>It's also the same .c files in Gerbil, GNUChess, and probably a ton more, if you
>>Hex'ed them.  They are common names.  Means *nothing*.
>>
>>>List size is only 44kb and crafty's around 258kb
>>
>>You don't insult someone to this magnitude, because of a 'hunch'.  It's just not
>>right what's been done.
>
>
>
>But Do not you think this is real coincidence?

I think he may have started out with Crafty, just as Bruce started out with
GNUChess.  But I don't think you'd see the strength difference between Crafty &
LIST unless Fritz changed a *lot* of things.  Enough things, to make it his own
program.



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