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Subject: Re: Let me add fuel...

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 01:22:48 11/29/03

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On November 29, 2003 at 01:30:22, Slater Wold wrote:

>http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003551689,00.html
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>One expert said: “LIST was playing out of its skin. We were shocked by some of
>the great moves it came up with. People started to smell a rat.”
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>There's your 'circumstantial evidence'.
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>And just FYI, here's two tourney's I ran last month:
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>10.15.2003
>Blitz:10'+10"
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>                   123456789012345678901234567890
>1   List 504       11101½½0½1½½1½0½½½½½½0110½0½½0 15.5/30
>2   Ruffian 1.0.5  00010½½1½0½½0½1½½½½½½1001½1½½1 14.5/30
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That's what had made me become a kind of fan of List. It's a tactical wizard: in
many positions where Comet searches a minute to find the solution move, List
displays it after a few seconds.

My feeling is that its tactical abilities are also clearly beyond the ones of
Crafty. Furtermore, style of play, nps and depths differ clearly. Thus, it had
surprised me a lot that the clone accusation had been taken seriously. I am
still hoping that ICGA will let us know what it had been based upon.

Uli


>
>10.10.2003
>Blitz:10'+10"
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>                               1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
>1   Shredder 7.04  2800  -110  * ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1   7.0/9
>2   Fritz 7        2600   +14  ½ * ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 0   6.0/9  26.00
>3   Junior 6.0     2600   +14  ½ ½ * ½ 1 1 0 1 ½ 1   6.0/9  25.00
>4   List 504       2350  +250  0 0 ½ * ½ 1 1 1 ½ 1   5.5/9
>5   smarthink      2400  +155  0 ½ 0 ½ * 1 ½ ½ 1 1   5.0/9
>6   Hiarcs 7.32    2550   -88  ½ ½ 0 0 0 * 0 1 1 1   4.0/9
>7   Crafty 19.03   2400   +38  0 0 1 0 ½ 1 * ½ ½ 0   3.5/9  15.50
>8   Tao 5.4        2400   +38  ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ * 1 1   3.5/9  12.25
>9   Ruffian 1.0.5  2450  -104  0 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 * 1   2.5/9
>10  Rebel 12       2500  -212  0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 *   2.0/9
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>I would be more than happy to send the games to anyone who would like them.



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