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Subject: Re: List - Ruffian - ?

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 12:22:15 11/29/03

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On November 29, 2003 at 12:59:01, Jim Bodkins wrote:

>On November 29, 2003 at 12:53:22, Jim Bodkins wrote:
>
>>On November 29, 2003 at 09:32:07, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>On November 29, 2003 at 08:17:31, Palmer wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just remembered that some time ago there was a discussion here on CCC if
>>>>ruffian is a crafty clone or not.
>>>>Here some comments form robert hyatt to that topic:
>>>>
>>>>...I agree. The real test is in tactics. It is not easy to make a copy of
>>>>Crafty either better or worse at tactics, but particularly making it better is
>>>>non-trivial. It's far easier to twiddle with a few eval terms to make it
>>>>play significantly different...
>>>>
>>>>...In the case of Ruffian, I'm not sure it is anything at all, other than
>>>>a very unlikely happening.
>>>>Ruffian could be any of the following, in decreasing order of probability:
>>>>1. A copy of a freeware engine with some changes or additions.
>>>>2. A copy of a commercial engine, aided by a hex editor to change strings
>>>>to disguise what has happened.
>>>>3. A copy of a commercial engine, modified, after someone found access to
>>>>the un-released source code somehow.
>>>>4. A program written by a current commercial (or amateur) author and released
>>>>anonymously, for reasons I wouldn't try to guess.
>>>>5. A completely new program, developed by a completely new author, sight-
>>>>unseen by anybody until very recently.
>>>>It _could_ be any of those. I don't have an opinion yet, except that the
>>>>above list is written in decreasing probability order....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I think that if you're not prepared to give your full, real name (as the rules
>>>of CCC require), you don't get to make stupid and venal accusations about
>>>people. I believe that you posted your message purely to troll. I believe that
>>>you owe Per-Ola Valfridsson an apology. I believe that you are too cowardly and
>>>too weak to apologize as you should.
>>>
>>>Andrew Williams
>>
>>
>>I understood his post. If there is a problem (which I didnt see), let the admins
>>handle it. You said "I believe that you are too cowardly and too weak to
>>apologize as you should.". The question is, are you?
>
>My intention isnt to cause trouble, but your response seem extreme. It is
>interesting to see this happen a second time and clearly indicates a need for an
>alternate or new solution to this issue.

A "second" time? What do you mean?

Andrew




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