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Subject: Re: Official rules of WCCC

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 15:33:14 11/29/03

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On November 29, 2003 at 18:16:44, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 29, 2003 at 17:37:02, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On November 29, 2003 at 17:04:14, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>
>>>Another point would be, can any participant choose his GUI of choice? In all GUI
>>>to engine protocols I know, this issue is not handled well. Some GUI might have
>>>given the right message, that would convince the TD. Another GUI might have
>>>failed to do this, parhaps all rather outside of the control of the engine.
>>>
>>>Note, I don't know the details of this specific case - so I also do not
>>>necessarily argue in that context. Just in a more general context. Say 4 engines
>>>use ChessHyper-GUI, that really does everything according to rules. That GUI
>>>might even claim a draw, when the engine is not aware of it. Other engines might
>>>use another GUU ...
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dieter
>>
>>
>>Yes, and the interpretation of the rules implies the opportunity that an
>>operator may overrule his program with the risk to loose in agreement with
>>opponent operator. In this special case the risk to loose wath rather high.
>>
>>Another point is that the decisive draw-message came from a fritz-gui, as
>>mentioned in the german CB-news, probably self-sufficient without asking the
>>program, i don't know.
>
>I think that using the chessbase gui should not be allowed in the first place
>because this gui interfere in the game.
>
>We cannot change rules retroactively but in the future if the chessbase gui does
>not learn to be quiet during the game and not do jobs of the engine then it
>should not be allowed.
>>
>>There is even an national aspect with this issue. The german programmer Johann
>>Zwanzger probably decided the WCCC due to mercy with the german programmer
>>Stefan Meyer-Kahlen.
>
>In that case he could do it simply by resigning earlier when there was a forced
>mate.
>
>Uri

Wrong, there was no forced mate earlier.
I am sure he would have resigned immediately after 31.Rxf7 but he is not allowed
to do so.

Michael



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