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Subject: Re: Jim your suggestion is very clever :-)

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 07:23:19 11/30/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 08:43:14, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 06:43:16, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On November 30, 2003 at 06:40:37, swaminathan natarajan wrote:
>>
>>>what bug?
>>>
>>>illegal move bug?
>>
>>The only thing that a program can NOT do is grab the arbiter by his hands and
>>claim the draw :-)
>>
>>In its decision the ICGA confirms that the Jonny program had announced its move
>>and stated on the screen “info” and “dreifache Stellungswiederholung”
>>(“information” and “threefold repetition of position”). But, said Jaap van den
>>Herik, this is different from "announcing its intention of making the move and
>>displaying wording to the effect that it was claiming a draw," as the FIDE rules
>>would requrie. The "Info" display only meant that the program was supplying
>>status information, not claiming a draw.
>>
>>Of course computers have always announced threefold repetitions in a Windows
>>alert box, we know of none that goes to the arbiter (or instructs its operator
>>to do this in its stead) to formally claim the draw. Were all previous claims by
>>computer programs illegitimate?
>
>Seems to me if you want to get "technical" then the program must be "programmed"
>to "Claim a draw" which takes it out of the operators hands.    At that point
>the program should shut down and refuse to play further.  Simply stating that a
>3-fold repetition has taken place is only notifying the operator that it is
>possible to claim a draw if the operator wishes.  Of course programs would have
>to really understand when it is possible to claim a draw by the rules as some
>now clearly do not.  In human tournaments it is not mandatory for one to claim a
>draw simply because it is possible.
>Jim


Jim you are correct, a simple instruction given to the program to stop making
any moves after it has forced a 3 fold repition, specially when is losing in
material or if the evaluation is inferior to its opponent.

Jorge



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