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Subject: Re: WCCC Playoff Draw controversy ?

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 08:02:44 11/30/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 10:54:08, George Sobala wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 10:44:27, Geoff wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Could someone explain what exactly happened in the WCCC playoff regarding the
>>draw bug issue, it is difficult to infer from the subsequent discussions ?
>>Thanks
>>
>>        Geoff
>
>The controversy was in the last-but-final round when Shredder, in a winning
>position against Jonny, played a threefold repetition, which Jonny's operator
>did not claim as a draw according to the WCCC rules. (We need CCTV footage and
>screendumps of this bit to really know what happened here.) Shredder then went
>on to win the game, tied with Fritz in first place and forced a play-off. The
>first play-off game was drawn, Shredder won the second.
>
>The controversy is over the aspect of the rules concerning draw-claiming in
>repeated positions.
>
>IMHO Shredder WAS winning, and IS the moral champion. Others, perhaps with their
>own agenda, feel otherwise.

That is amusing.  : )

How many times have I been "winning" when I made a blunder and lost?

How many times has my game ended in stalemate when I was "winning" but
overlooked the stalemate possibility?

How many times has a win slipped through my hands because my opponent claimed
the draw by threefold repetition of the position?

The answers to all of these questions is:  "Too many!"

If Shredder allowed the threefold repetition of the position then it should not
be given the win IMHO.  This is supposed to be a competition between computers.
Obviously, the tournament rules are defective and need a lot of improvement!

Bob D.



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