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Subject: Re: Why's ?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:41:53 11/30/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 11:23:18, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 11:01:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 30, 2003 at 10:51:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 30, 2003 at 10:36:54, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 30, 2003 at 10:20:12, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why did Jonny move after the threefold repetition ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Why did the gui allow it ?
>>>>>
>>>>>If Jonny moved wasn't it then the engine and
>>>>>
>>>>>not the operator or the gui which is responsible
>>>>>
>>>>>for the lose ?
>>>>
>>>>Of course not.
>>>>
>>>>The Chessbase GUI is responsible for 3-fold repetition draws.
>>>>You get a message box, and if you click OK you are always allowed to play on.
>>>>This applies to all Chessbase-native engines Fritz,Shredder,Hiarcs...
>>>>
>>>>Fritz engine itself does not even know about 3-fold repetition draws.
>>>>For Fritz engines there is no difference whatsoever between 1,2 or 3-fold
>>>>repetition.
>>>>
>>>>The operator was clearly responsible for the loss.
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>
>>>I think that both operartors are quilty.
>>>
>>>The operator of shredder also is not allowed to continue when there is a 3 fold
>>>repetition and he should stop the game.
>
>*************
>?????  Is that in the rules?  It's not in the rules for humans.  There is no
>"requirement" for humans to claim a draw after 3 fold repetition.  In fact the
>rules say that if you do not claim the draw before executing a move on the board
>you lose the right to claim a draw untill the same position appears with
>identical circumstances later.  Shredder had no reason to claim a draw even if
>the position had occured 3 times since it considered itself winning.
>***************

The reason is that he could see that the opponent claimed a draw before the move
and he should not let him to play the move without draw claim.

If my opponent lose on purpose I should complain and not let him to do it.

Uri



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