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Subject: Re: WCCC Playoff Draw controversy ?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:51:33 11/30/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 11:02:44, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 10:54:08, George Sobala wrote:
>
>>On November 30, 2003 at 10:44:27, Geoff wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Could someone explain what exactly happened in the WCCC playoff regarding the
>>>draw bug issue, it is difficult to infer from the subsequent discussions ?
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>        Geoff
>>
>>The controversy was in the last-but-final round when Shredder, in a winning
>>position against Jonny, played a threefold repetition, which Jonny's operator
>>did not claim as a draw according to the WCCC rules. (We need CCTV footage and
>>screendumps of this bit to really know what happened here.) Shredder then went
>>on to win the game, tied with Fritz in first place and forced a play-off. The
>>first play-off game was drawn, Shredder won the second.
>>
>>The controversy is over the aspect of the rules concerning draw-claiming in
>>repeated positions.
>>
>>IMHO Shredder WAS winning, and IS the moral champion. Others, perhaps with their
>>own agenda, feel otherwise.
>
>That is amusing.  : )
>
>How many times have I been "winning" when I made a blunder and lost?
>
>How many times has my game ended in stalemate when I was "winning" but
>overlooked the stalemate possibility?
>
>How many times has a win slipped through my hands because my opponent claimed
>the draw by threefold repetition of the position?
>
>The answers to all of these questions is:  "Too many!"
>
>If Shredder allowed the threefold repetition of the position then it should not
>be given the win IMHO.  This is supposed to be a competition between computers.
>Obviously, the tournament rules are defective and need a lot of improvement!
>
>Bob D.

No the tournamet rules are _very_ clear here. It was the people running that
tournament that "need improvement".  Apparently a few lessons in reading,
and comprehension, and analytical reasoning, etc..





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