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Subject: Re: Congrats to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen!

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 10:54:10 11/30/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 12:59:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 12:11:45, Sandro Necchi wrote:
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>>Hi,
>>
>>you are not fair as you did not read what has been written about what happened.
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>>What happened was allowed by the agreed (by all partecipants) rules.
>
>You are simply wrong.

I was not there but what I wrote/being told makes you wrong, not me.

>The operator can _not_ choose to play a move he
>wants to play.  He _must_ play what the computer says to play.  And in this
>case the computer said "I claim a draw"

I was told that the program did not "claim a draw", this is why you are wrong.

>and the operator chose to ignore that
>and force the game to continue.
>
>That is _definitely_ against the rules.  It has _always_ been against the
>rules.  The TD was incompetent for making such a stupid decision.
>
>There is _no_ wayh to justify this, and the 2003 WCCC title is forever
>marred by this stupidity...

I think this is quite unfair to the TD director.
I will not follow you in making this kind of judgements. It is not in my style.
I accept the decision by the TD director whichever it is.

>I think it time for the ICGA to fall apart, or else find a good TD.  IM Mike
>Valvo _never_ allowed such nonsense at all the events he ran.  Jaap simply has
>no business doing this, it is "beyond his abilities".

This is really unfair. I had a different opinion of you being fair.

>>
>>Maybe we can improve the rules, but we MUST followed and accept them once we
>>have accepted them. Both in the good or bad.
>
>Everybody accepted the rules.  But the TD did _not_ follow them.
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>>There is no more we can say on thim matter. I understand we may have different
>>opinions, but the rules are the rules.
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>And the rules were broken...

It seems this is your point of view, not everybody's....

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>>Anything more on this matter may be just misleading.
>
>It is misleading to talk about a ridiculous decision that prevented Fritz
>from winning an event it deserved to win?  Oh, I forgot which program you
>were involved with.  :)

I did not took any decision. Am I free to tell my point of view or only people
that are on one side can?

>
>>
>>Does anyone really believe that we would have been allowed to win the game if
>>this was against the rules?
>
>
>Yes, because we watched it _happen_.

We are not sponsored by anyone...everybody know it...is seems you do not.

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>>I hope to see people talk about the chess games as players and not caring about
>>things which have very little to do with chess.
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>>I am wondering if this is a chess site or something else...
>
>I would be more interested to know if the WCCC 2003 was a chess tournament,
>or "somethign else" which is what it appeared to be.

If you are a better programmer why you do not show it to us?

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>>I stated that we would have won the championship no matter anything and we did.
>
>Ugh...

Well, I did...people here wrote my post just after loosing to Fritz.

>
>>
>>Think about how I could knew this from a chess point of view instead of making a
>>lot of noise on nonsense things.
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>
>double ugh...
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>>Pls. speak about chess and chess games, engines etc...otherwise change sport.
>
>I think I'll go puke...

Why not horses?
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>>Sandro

Sandro



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