Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 12:25:56 11/30/03
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On November 30, 2003 at 15:16:22, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On November 30, 2003 at 15:04:37, Joachim Rang wrote: > >>On November 30, 2003 at 14:51:22, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On November 30, 2003 at 13:44:48, Roger D Davis wrote: >>> >>>>Now that Shredder is officially the world champion, will it play Kasparov or >>>>Kramnik in the future. Or will Chessbase continue to put Fritz forward? >>>> >>>>Roger >>> >>> >>>I hope the the new Shredder support Fisher Random Chess and Challenge Peter >>>Svidler :-) >>> >>>http://www.psvidler.net/ >> >>Fisher Random is already won for the machines. No human can draw a FRC-Match >>against Shredder of Fritz. >> >>regards Joachim > >I don't think so. Look at Kurt Utzingers tournament. All engines play crap in >the opening at times. > >It depends very much on the startpositions. >There are startpositions a human can play better than the machines. >Such a general statement is therefore wrong. > >Btw, Shredder and Fritz do not know about castling in FRC. A serious >disadvantage. > >Michael Shredder and Fritz can not play FRC, so my statement was hypothetically: if the programmers would implement the FRC in Fritz or Shredder they would win every match against a human. Yes computers play crap in the opening, but this is only crap since we have the opening knowledge of 500 years and therefore can qualify some moves as crap. In FRC humans will play crap in the openings too, since they have no theory to recognize. There was a match between CT15 and a Fidemaster who was allowed to use CT15 too on a ten times slower computer. He lost and said afterwards that for a human it is hard to find the setup you want in the opening since you can not rely on your knowledge you must calculate every line. Svidler is undoubtedly stronger but nevertheless humans will have difficulties to lure the programs in the sort of positions which humans still can win against thwe programs. regards Joachim
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