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Subject: Re: The Shredder-Jonny draw...

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 13:21:50 11/30/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 16:11:03, Tony Werten wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 15:55:09, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On November 30, 2003 at 14:10:45, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>Is not so suspect...
>>>
>>>Johannes Zwanzger said that Shredder was clearly won, and that he did not want
>>>to 'steal the victory' from Shredder because of a stupid bug.  THAT is why he
>>>did not get a TD, and kept playing.  It was Johannes Zwanzger's choice, and no
>>>one else.
>>
>>No.  It was the software's choice.  That is "who" is playing the game.  Ths
>>software claimed "draw".  The operator overruled the claim, thus "taking the
>>dive", throwing the game.
>>
>>What incentive now has SMK to fix his bugs when his opponents all lay down and
>>play dead instead of hold his "bucket of bugs" to the test?  If his software is
>>so good, why don't all operators simply resign or forfiet before the game even
>>starts in deferrence to Shredder's acknowledged superiority?
>>
>>Ridiculous!!!
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Shredder won.  Period.
>>
>>
>>Fritz won.  Period.  Shredder accepted a gift 1/2 point which it did not earn.
>>Shameful!!!
>
>Although I agree with you on the first part, I have to disagree here.
>
>You can't blame Shredder for accepting the gift. Only the opponent for offering
>it and the TD for not correcting it. ( My opinion of coarse, as usual)


To then accept the opposing player's points as a gift is not right in any book
of competition, especially if YOUR program screwed up and drew a position that
was won.

What about the other competitors?   They have a stake in the outcome as well.
Their rights to a fair and honest result have been trampled under foot,
especially the Fritz team.  Their championship was taken away by this unethical,
un-earned 1/2 point that was GIVEN FREE to Shredder.

This should never have been allowed.  As a result, the real winners have been
robbed of rightful laurels.

MH



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>Tony
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>>MH



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