Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 14:40:09 11/30/03
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On November 30, 2003 at 11:13:45, Terry McCracken wrote: >On November 30, 2003 at 01:50:19, Jim Bodkins wrote: > >>On November 29, 2003 at 22:48:42, Roger D Davis wrote: >> >>>I have to wonder how the latest screw up should be interpreted in the total >>>history of the tournament. One perspective is that the Law of Karma is finally >>>kicking in. In this scenario, the tournament committee handled the List affair >>>awkwardly by being too rigid and authoritarian in their interpretation of the >>>rules. Ironically, they essentially quote the charter on the Chessbase site to >>>excuse themselves for having to disqualify List. Even when there were dissenting >>>opinions on this board, with some of the programmers themselves saying that they >>>wouldn't reveal their own source, that circumstantial evidence wasn't enough for >>>the committee to act upon, etc., there was no subsequent clarification of the >>>circumstances of the disqualification. The rules are the rules, as they say (and >>>said). >>> >>>But...the List decision being BS, and there being balance and fairness in the >>>Universe, the Law of Karma kicked in as a means of showing us exactly how >>>hypocritical the tournament is: The rules are the rules when it's convenient to >>>excuse the behavior of the committee, but are open to interpretation in another >>>circumstance where they should apply. The effect of the Law of Karma is seen in >>>the consequences of this behavior, which is to undermine, if not invalidate, the >>>meaning of the IGCA world championship title. >>> >>>The Law of Karma interpretation has a lot to recommend it, because it proposes >>>that even if tournament committees act hypocritically and unfairly, at some >>>level there is justice in the universe, and that if fairness is flaunted, then >>>while the Universe may not be able to correct the result, it will at least >>>render the result completely absurd and meaningless. By this reasoning, the >>>latest snafu is actually required in order for Karmic balance to be achieved. >>> >>>Unfortunately, the Law of Karma interpretation also supposes the operation of >>>unseen forces, and cannot be called the most parsimonious interpretation. Maybe >>>fairness, unlike matter and energy, is not conserved. Maybe there are only >>>events that happen, and while it's possible to chronicle them and note strange >>>coincidences, these coincidences are just nothing more than statistical >>>aberrations, with meaning imposed upon them. >>> >>>By this explanation, the latest snafu with Shredder is simply history repeating >>>itself. The causality at work is not the causality of Karma, but the causality >>>of stupidity, the fact that if you screw up once in a critical situation (e.g., >>>with List), you're likely to screw up again, no matter how much egg you already >>>have on your face. >>> >>>For the tournament committee, the problem is that the Shredder snafu puts the >>>List issue in a completely different light, because it shows us how incompetent >>>the committee really is. At it's maximum, it means that the List issue becomes >>>more significant, because the issues involved must be reevaluated in the context >>>of the committee's latest faux pas. >>> >>>Take your pick. >>> >>>Roger >> >>I would use the word comeuppance. I expect ICGA to be shadowed by this for some >>time. (Which is a shame for the sake of the developers. It will follow them as >>well). And I couldnt agree more regarding the committees imcompetance. It >>appears to me that either the committee needs an overhaul or there needs to be a >>new committee. This is the committee that sanctions Twixt as well I believe. >>Heady company. Sorry for the sarcasm, but why precisely doesnt computer chess >>have a chess governing body in this area. For that matter, why isnt computer >>chess governed by FIDE. >> >>I'm sure they did their best and meant well. I believe that a better job could >>have been done, whether by ICGA or some other organization. I believe that needs >>to happen. >> >>I dont know why FIDE doesnt sanction these computer tournaments, even though >>they do sanction 'events'. >> >>http://www.fide.com/calendar/fidecalendar.phtml?view=8 > >FIDE What a Joke! > >Still slamming the ICGA I see, well Jim, the draw was never claimed and if it >were to be claimed, it has to be claimed _before_ the side to move, actually >moves their its piece. > >Kh7 was played, so too late so sad too bad. Check the Rules!! >Do you actually play chess? Just wondering. =============================================== This post is unacceptable. It is not acceptable to insult other members. Please refrain from making posts like this and consider this a warning. Thank you.
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