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Subject: I forgot

Author: Les Fernandez

Date: 22:14:41 11/30/03

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On December 01, 2003 at 01:11:46, Les Fernandez wrote:

>On December 01, 2003 at 00:38:28, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On December 01, 2003 at 00:35:26, Les Fernandez wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone have any idea what the percentage is for a chess engine after say 90 sec
>>>of analysis that one of the top 5 suggested moves is in fact the best move?  And
>>>what percent of the time would you guess that after an additional 90 sec that an
>>>alternate move is found and that it was not one of the top 5 choices after the
>>>first 90 seconds?  And finally can crafty when it is done with its analysis
>>>report the top 5 highest rated moves and if not what engine can do that?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Les
>>
>>Rebel tracks it by depth.  Here's my output:
>>
>>                 SEARCH OVERVIEW
>>                 ===============
>>
>>Depth    Moves          Moves         Big Score
>>       Searched        Changed         Changes
>>
>> 1       7118         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>> 2       7009      2832 = 40.4%     1900 = 27.1%
>> 3       6988      2131 = 30.5%     1160 = 16.6%
>> 4       6933      1856 = 26.8%      653 =  9.4%
>> 5       6923      1777 = 25.7%      774 = 11.2%
>> 6       6892      1504 = 21.8%      582 =  8.4%
>> 7       6873      1403 = 20.4%      571 =  8.3%
>> 8       6824      1264 = 18.5%      480 =  7.0%
>> 9       6735      1247 = 18.5%      454 =  6.7%
>>10       6509       924 = 14.2%      306 =  4.7%
>>11       6077       904 = 14.9%      344 =  5.7%
>>12       5276       665 = 12.6%      224 =  4.2%
>>13       3984       473 = 11.9%      179 =  4.5%
>>14       2473       216 =  8.7%      103 =  4.2%
>>15       1415       113 =  8.0%       81 =  5.7%
>>16        867        38 =  4.4%       52 =  6.0%
>>17        543        17 =  3.1%       38 =  7.0%
>>18        322         9 =  2.8%       28 =  8.7%
>>19        240         9 =  3.8%       24 = 10.0%
>>20        200         5 =  2.5%       11 =  5.5%
>>21        165         2 =  1.2%        7 =  4.2%
>>22        128         2 =  1.6%        8 =  6.3%
>>23         96         1 =  1.0%        3 =  3.1%
>>24         84         1 =  1.2%        5 =  6.0%
>>25         74         1 =  1.4%        4 =  5.4%
>>26         70         1 =  1.4%        1 =  1.4%
>>27         66         2 =  3.0%        1 =  1.5%
>>28         63         2 =  3.2%        1 =  1.6%
>>29         63         1 =  1.6%        1 =  1.6%
>>30         60         1 =  1.7%        1 =  1.7%
>>31         58         0 =  0.0%        1 =  1.7%
>>32         57         1 =  1.8%        1 =  1.8%
>>33         56         0 =  0.0%        2 =  3.6%
>>34         54         0 =  0.0%        1 =  1.9%
>>35         52         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>36         50         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>37         49         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>38         47         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>39         45         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>40         45         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>41         44         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>42         44         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>43         42         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>44         40         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>45         40         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>46         40         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>47         40         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>48         39         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>49         39         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>50         39         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>51         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>52         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>53         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>54         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>55         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>56         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>57         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>58         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>59         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>>60         37         0 =  0.0%        0 =  0.0%
>
>Hi Slater,
>
>I am not sure I understand this output fully.  Moves changed percent is it based
>on a number of games to the indicated ply depth?  Big score changes??  What type
>of magnitude are we talking about here.  I thank you so much for your response
>however I think I need to have an idea or atleast an approximation as to how
>long it takes rebel to reach the listed depths.  I understand that it will vary
>at times depending on the position but a good educated guess won't hurt for the
>time being.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Les

ps I really need to know what the top 5 best choices were and whether or not
after an additional 90 sec what percent of the time the final best move is not
one of the initial (first 90 sec) top 5 best choices.

Sorry for the repeat!



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