Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 00:25:29 12/01/03
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On December 01, 2003 at 03:23:39, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On December 01, 2003 at 00:29:54, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > > ***The BUG of Shredder*** > >The NOSE of Shredder at the WM 2003!? Only enclosed: I wrote further down (to >Thomas Wallendik) that also the operators decide whether it a portion give up or >not! Naturally for this the agreement of the tournament line applies. How I read >in another place, the operator of Jonny wanted to further-play against Shredder >(despite 3fach repetition of course) and it implemented its course already, and >went only then to the tournament line. As he now however said, that was (more >ignorantly) an error of it, because he wanted to decide in agreement with the >tournament line. Since it gave however the course right up, the tournament line >could not accept differently than the victory of Shredder later. Strange way >however the tournament line in the portion Fritz accepted vs. cunning (after a >matte announcement of Fritz) the task of cunning, although it had been a long >forecast matte. One could itself have let the matte from Fritz also here show? >but one trusted the matte announcement. I remember however the fact that Diep a >portion up to the matte to play had (believes against Brutus). Result: The >operators with agreement of the tournament line decide, when it is >further-played and when not. On a Remisangebot the engines in any window to wait >is not necessary. So seen, we saw therefore (because of Play off) altogether 13 >Fritz and Shredder portions, and there the computers (particularly of Fritz) >with 4x 2.8 GHz the straight slowest was not, were also the Play Offs with >60?/Partie on a high level in the comparison to the SSDF or a dual computer! >Shredder lay in the fine valuation after 11 rounds in front. Fritz won the >direct 1st comparison however. Shredder won however the hochklassige Olay off. >Thus Shredder of the correct, worthy, and correct world champion 2003 is! But we >come to nose. What was there the matter? If it did not receive someone on >Saturday, which is said that Shredder in the portion against SOS likewise a >2fache repetition of course played, and that there was no 3fach repetition to >register already here, it is only because of the lucky circumstance that >Shredder the 2fache repetition introduced and not SOS! Here the 1. Position: >Parsos vs. Shredder > >[D]8/5rkp/3p2p1/Q2P4/6q1/8/6P1/R6K b - - 0 1 > >49.Dxa5 Dh4+ 50.Kg1 Dd4+ 51.Kh2 Dh4+ 52.Kg1 Dd4+ 53.Kh2 De5+ We see here that >black with the zugfolge 49... Dh4+ a repetition of course made. To determine >thereby the following factors are: Black chess offered and the opponents played >thereafter with its king on the same field back where it before it chess had >gotten. Now the 2. Position against Jonny: Shredder vs. Jonny > >[D]1rr5/p4q1k/3Q4/8/4p1R1/2p5/PPP1B2P/1K6 w - - 0 1 > >Here it was the opponent of the one 1. Position against getting introduces, by >means of Tab8! And which makes Shredder? It behaves just as in principle as >against SOS and plays a double repetition of course from its view: 33.Tg4 Tab8 >34.Th4+ Kg8 35.Tg4+ Kh7 36.Th4+ Kg8 37.Tg4+ Kh7 After the black course 37. Kh7 >developed a 3fach repetition of course, since she was introduced by the opponent >of Shredder, in contrast to only the 2fach repetition in the portion of SOS vs. >for Shredder. What is noticeable? We are not in the final game. I.E. that the >repetition of course cannot have to do anything with the Tablebases. Identical >here however the same motive is as in the SOS portion: Shredder gives a chess, >which opponents plays a course later with the king on the same field where he >before already was, and Shredder gives there 2. Times chess. Now I looked for >all Shredder portions of the WM for the same motive, and I found an interesting >position! In the portion Shredder vs. Brutus (round 5) came it to the following >position: Shredder vs. Brutus > >[D]1q3n2/8/pk1p3P/1p2p3/4B3/P7/1PP5/1K4Q1 b - - 0 1 > >We are in 39. Course and Shredder give Dg1+! But which follows now? This >zugfolge: 39.Dg1+ Kc7 40.Dg7+ Kb6 41.b4 We see here clear parallels for the two >previous examples to course 40. Shredder gives chess, which plays king after c7, >then Shredder 40.Dg7+ now plays and happened in principle the same pulls as in >the previous examples, Brutus its king on the same field where it with first >chess requirement of Shredder lay. Now does the simple question arise to me, why >Shredder did not order the program this NOSE still times on g1 chess if had, >that the samples are identically?? Eduard World:
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