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Subject: After FIDE rules Jonny's operator could not even claim the draw

Author: Francesco Di Tolla

Date: 01:18:00 12/01/03


As far as I understand Jonny did not claim draw at all.
Not because the program did not ask for it while the interface did, but becasue
both the prorgam and interface NEVER did a draw claim.

The interface showed a pop-up claiming "3 fold repetition" and this is NOT a
draw claim.

The operator is supposed to claim draws on behalf of the program when the
program actually does ask for a draw, not when he thinks the result is the best
for the engine or so.

Actually if we strictly follow FIDE rules the operator can ask a draw for 3-fold
repetition only if the engine does the explicit claim

"3.3 Only if the computer itself so instructs him may the operator offer a draw,
or claim a draw by repetition."

source:
http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE3

so the operator was not even allowed to ask for a draw for repetition.

This is a serious Fritz GUI bug.


I agree that an engine cannot call the referee and ask for the draw but it can
state something like "the engine asks the draw" and this would be a regular way
to notify to the operator that the engine is asking for the draw.

Imagine the opposite scenario:
a prorgam with no Chessbase gui does not detect the 3-fold repetition, Shredder
in CB gui does and the GUI announces 3-fold repetition. Should the operator of
shredder ask for the draw or go for the best for the engine and continue?

Clearly the operator could say the engine and the GUI have not asked for a draw.

Who could claim the oppposite?

regards
Franz




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