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Subject: Re: Isn't it an easy case?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 05:55:59 12/01/03

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On December 01, 2003 at 08:01:28, Gabor Szots wrote:

>If an engine is unable to claim draw on repetition, then it is not a draw if the
>opponent plays on. Not a draw even if the same position repeats 10 times.
>If the GUI claims the draw, it is as if a spectator would have claimed it,
>therefore invalid.

According to this nearly all computer-computer games that ended in a draw by
repetition are invalid.

All chessbase native engines are of course not able to claim a draw correctly
since it is the job of the GUI.

SSDF ratinglist is invalid too since many games ended by a 3-fold repetition
draw claim of the GUI.

The simple solution is to declare all games with a 3-fold repetition draw.
Who cares about the FIDE rules? This is computer chess.

Michael


>
>It seems to me that Jonny did not recognize draw because it accepted Shredder's
>next move. In this case Shredder was EXTREMELY LUCKY, but nothing illegal or
>unethical happened.

>
>I think it is unimportant that the GUI claimed the draw only when the position
>had in fact repeated 3 times. In a human tournament, if I make my move, STOP THE
>CLOCK, and call the arbiter, my draw claim is still valid. But without the claim
>of the player himself, NOT EVEN THE ARBITER has to right to declare a draw. This
>is what saved Shredder. An unlucky blow for the Fritz team.
>
>Gábor




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