Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:51:30 12/01/03
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On December 01, 2003 at 09:15:59, Gabor Szots wrote: >On December 01, 2003 at 08:55:59, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On December 01, 2003 at 08:01:28, Gabor Szots wrote: >> >>>If an engine is unable to claim draw on repetition, then it is not a draw if the >>>opponent plays on. Not a draw even if the same position repeats 10 times. >>>If the GUI claims the draw, it is as if a spectator would have claimed it, >>>therefore invalid. >> >>According to this nearly all computer-computer games that ended in a draw by >>repetition are invalid. > >Not if the claim was made by the engine itself, and it was a correct claim. > >> >>All chessbase native engines are of course not able to claim a draw correctly >>since it is the job of the GUI. > >That's their own business. They start with a handicap in a tournament >deliberately. No They simply do not assume that the rules are like you assume. I am sure that they could implement correct draw claim by the engine and not by the interface in case that they understand that they need to do it but nobody told them before the tournament. > >> >>SSDF ratinglist is invalid too since many games ended by a 3-fold repetition >>draw claim of the GUI. > >In this case I would accept what the GUI says because these games are only >played for statistical reasons, so an error margin is acceptable. > >> >>The simple solution is to declare all games with a 3-fold repetition draw. >>Who cares about the FIDE rules? This is computer chess. > >That is of course true. No one said computers must have the same rules as >humans. Still I believe it is better to follow the FIDE rules in this particular >case. If you want to follow the fide rules and not the rules that are used in all comp-comp games then you should explain it to the participants before the event and not after the event. If there is a rule that a lot of participants do not know then it is the responsibilty of the organizers to explain the rule before the event. Uri
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