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Subject: Re: Deep Blue and the

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:26:29 11/17/98

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On November 17, 1998 at 12:55:01, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On November 16, 1998 at 09:49:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>I wouldn't argue.  But when he made a statement about DB being locked away
>>with GM's hovering around, both in match 1 and in match 2, wouldn't you say
>>that was nothing but "sour grapes"?  IE if he didn't like it in match 1,
>>wouldn't/shouldn't he make that an issue resolved by contractual agreement
>>before match 2?
>>
>>Or do you suppose that he (a) got whacked and (b) then enumerated every possible
>>thing that he didn't like (and which he never suggested changing either) to try
>>and make it look like the deck was stacked against him?  IE when we played David
>>Levy in 1984, if we had won I wonder if he'd have raised all those same issues?
>>I somehow doubt it.  We wanted to play *him* and not the other way around, so
>>he dictated how we had to operate (terminal to machine in one room, the game
>>in another, to keep distractions down.  Lost a lot of time for us, but we agreed
>>to it.  Kasparov could have done the same...  But it was only important *after*
>>the fact as an excuse...
>
>Maybe he didn't think it through very well because he expected them to be less
>competitive.
>
>Another difference between those matches is that Levy knew you and had seen your
>machine operate.  He knew what you were about, and he knew what Cray Blitz was
>about.  I don't think Kasparov had as much prior information.
>
>bruce


Sure.. but that wasn't the main issue.  David wanted the terminal to the
Cray in another room so he wouldn't here the clacking, beeping, and so forth
we had to use... the long distance connection from London to the US dropped
*many* times..  and was so unreliable here's what we ended up doing:

Harry Nelson went to Cray Research and slept in the computer center, basically.
When we started a game, he operated computer from the operator's console so that
if we got disconnected it didn't abort the game in progress.  I talked to Harry
over a voice line.  I had a terminal connected to the room with David Levy.
Bert sat in there and the *only* thing he typed was David's move.  The "bell"
on his terminal was disabled... so we lost time when he didn't immediately
notice a move coming in (hard to sit in front of a dumb terminal and stare at
it continuously) as well as when *he* entered a move from David and *I* didn't
see it for the same reason...  and then we had to get Harry to enter the move
correctly back at Cray.  It was a "zoo".  But *he* set the conditions of the
match and *we* agreed since we wanted to play him.  Kasparov could certainly
have done any of those things that he complained about.





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