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Subject: Re: New poll Question? Would anyone now claim comps are not GM strength?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 08:36:30 12/01/03

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On December 01, 2003 at 05:50:25, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On December 01, 2003 at 00:26:35, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On November 30, 2003 at 19:59:21, Gerald Wright wrote:
>>
>>>On November 30, 2003 at 19:56:49, Eye Witness wrote:
>>>
>>>>  "If a computer were to play secretly in a tournament like Linares the special
>>>>preparation would be taken away and a program like Deep Fritz would finish in
>>>>one of the top positions."  Vladimir Kramnik 2003
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I submit comps have been GM strength since Fritz 5 on a Pentium 200 machine.
>>>>Not always against anti-computer play but regular chess play as described above.
>>>
>>>
>>>They have been grandmasters even against anti computer play, if this is not true
>>>show me the public games where they have been beaten by anti computer play, i am
>>>not talking about some games where some person claimed to win without evidence.
>>
>>Check my wins at Lokasoft, against Rebel 12, before and after the Bug Fix, I can
>>attest they are not Grandmasters, yet.
>
>If they weren't GM's, then how do you explain the performance of:
>Rebel Century 4 against Van Vely,Shredder 7 in Argentina, Rebel against Anand
>and many others(Rebel didn't lost a match against any GM),Chess Tiger 14 in
>Argentina, Chess Tiger 15.0 against 4 GM's,Hiarcs 8 in Agrentina,Hiarcs 9
>against Bareev,Deep Fritz 8 and Deep Junior 8 against Kasparov,Fritz 8 against
>Kramnik, Gambit Tiger 2.0/Shredder 6.0/Junior 7.0/Hiarcs 8.0 against Smirin(if
>they weren't GM's they would lose 7-1 or or more), Brutus against GM's, Chess
>Tiger 15.0 in Spain and many many more.
>
>>
>>But believe as you will, and no I didn't play with takebacks, nor did I use
>>anti-computer play. Besides, what's the fun in that?

I guess I'm a GM then>:)



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