Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:53:57 12/01/03
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On December 01, 2003 at 15:34:50, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On December 01, 2003 at 12:33:17, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 01, 2003 at 11:59:02, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:40:39, Matthew Hull wrote: >>> >>>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:37:30, Roberto Nerici wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:24:20, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 10:14:20, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.icga.org/News/events/wccc2004/BarIlan.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>>12th World Computer Chess Championship >>>>>>>Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel >>>>>>>July 4th-12th 2004 >>>>>> >>>>>>July 4. >>>>>>What a bunch of morons. >>>>> >>>>>Would have you gone anyway? >>>> >>>> >>>>There are plenty of US engine authors. ICGA want to exclude Americans for some >>>>reason. Politics? >>>> >>> >>>That date was chosen especially for the US participants who cannot afford the >>>time to travel in non-holiday time. Moreover, the financial assistance was also >>>added to further encourage the participation of US programmers. >> >>Then the logic is flawed. The 4th is a single day here, ie we close for >>one day, not the entire week. The 4th is on a Sunday. We would be off from >>work that day anyway so most businesses will close the next day, Monday, >>instead. >> > >Our goal is to have as many participants as possible. We would like to >facilitate the participation of US programs in every way we can. July 4th is >celebrated only for one day in the US (mainly consisting of barbecues :) so it >shouldn't cause a major problem (BTW, Americans in Israel will feel at home on >4th of July, as there are many Americans here celebrating the day). > >Apparently Crafty is not going to take part in any WCCC any time soon. But if >there are American programmers who would like to take part, but are not >comfortable with the starting date, then please let us know. Crafty can participate if a "non-programmer operator" is allowed. This was banned by ICGA a few years back, but they were not exactly exemplar in their enforcement of it. As I said, many times, the event is _too long_. If you look back at every ACM event from 1970 to 1995 they took at most 3 weekdays for the event, plus the preceeding weekend. With 16 participants, it was pretty stupid to have 11 rounds, as you can see. The tournament was over before the last 4 rounds were played. Why not either reduce the number of rounds, or play them via the internet for the first N, so that the event becomes a more managable 2-3 days of playing plus travel? This idea of a week plus is simply too long. Participation seems to bear that out. It is declining. When I started doing this in the 1970's, I could hardly afford to spend 10 days in Europe, much less include the travel. That is _not_ cheap. The ACM events generally (best case) were three nights in a hotel. That was doable.
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