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Subject: Re: After FIDE rules Jonny's operator could not even claim the draw

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 16:24:16 12/01/03

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On December 01, 2003 at 12:18:20, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:

>On December 01, 2003 at 11:29:36, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On December 01, 2003 at 04:18:00, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:
>>
>>>As far as I understand Jonny did not claim draw at all.
>>>Not because the program did not ask for it while the interface did, but becasue
>>>both the prorgam and interface NEVER did a draw claim.
>>>
>>>The interface showed a pop-up claiming "3 fold repetition" and this is NOT a
>>>draw claim.
>>>
>>
>>Your objection is one of symantics.  You argue with the FORMAT of the message
>>and the choice of words used in the message.  Did the tournament rule set
>>specify one and only one way the draw claim had to be worded?  This is a
>>question of language only.
>
>it is not like that: there are many cases where even GM did have
>misunderstandings on such issues and both were pretending to be right. One was
>sure he was accepting a draw the other was thinking the opponend did resign. An
>the two did write dow different socres on the scorecard to be signed by the
>other. That's why the referee should be invoked.
>
>If during I game I state "I'm lost" it does not mean I'm resigning and my
>opponent cannot pretend to have a win. I have to stop the clock and say "i
>resign" in some language.
>
>So i think the computer program should do something similar: the cannot push the
>clock nor call the referee. But they can show a pop-up that instructs the
>operator to ask for a draw.
>
>The words "Info: 3-fold repetition" are not necessarely enough to me. Is in that
>case the program really asking to apply the rule of 3-fold repetition or is that
>a ganeric info?
>
>That's at least ambigous.

I now understand your point and agree with you.

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Bob D.



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