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Subject: Re: CCT6 2004: Now 25 Participants

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 04:52:16 12/02/03

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On December 01, 2003 at 13:38:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 01, 2003 at 13:35:22, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On December 01, 2003 at 13:32:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On December 01, 2003 at 13:02:18, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:25:52, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:07:47, Volker Richey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>News: Hossa join CCT6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>more informations under http://www.vrichey.de/cct6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>volker
>>>>>
>>>>>Where are the front-runner commercial programs?  Will they just join later?  Or,
>>>>>what?
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob D.
>>>>
>>>>Most don't kibitz as required every move. That leaves out all ChesPartner
>>>>engines and Chessbase engines.
>>>
>>>That isn't true.  IE Crafty is a chessbase engine and it kibitzes just
>>>as it is supposed to.  The programmers can do this if they _want_.  It
>>>took me all of an hour to add this, and I originally had to add the ability
>>>to send kibitzes to xboard as well.
>>
>>
>>I answered specifically his question. "Where are the front-runner commercial
>>programs?  Will they just join later?"
>>
>>Crafty to my knowledge is not commercial and is already included.
>>
>>Sarah.
>>
>Yes, but the point is not that they "can't" kibitz just because they are
>chess base programs,  They "won't" kibitz.  There is a difference.  This
>has been the same mentality that has prevented operatorless tournaments
>with automatic interfaces.  "We don't have an automatic interface, we are
>commercial, do you want to have an event without us?"
>
>CCT has said "yes".  After a while, they will decide it is to their advantage
>to compete there, and kibitzing will happen.  How long did it take them to get
>something that would let them play on a chess server?  :)  More importantly,
>_why_ did they do it?  answer:  marketing pressure.  User demands.
>

I've explained this about a million and two times.  The Chessbase GUI does not
and cannot connect directly to ICC.  It is impossible to kibitz moves for a
chessbase native engine unless another GUI is used (which then, would make it
UCI or winboard.)  An hour of work my ass.

-elc.



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