Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:00:04 12/02/03
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On December 02, 2003 at 07:52:16, enrico carrisco wrote: >On December 01, 2003 at 13:38:57, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 01, 2003 at 13:35:22, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On December 01, 2003 at 13:32:35, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On December 01, 2003 at 13:02:18, Chessfun wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:25:52, Bob Durrett wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:07:47, Volker Richey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>News: Hossa join CCT6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>more informations under http://www.vrichey.de/cct6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>volker >>>>>> >>>>>>Where are the front-runner commercial programs? Will they just join later? Or, >>>>>>what? >>>>>> >>>>>>Bob D. >>>>> >>>>>Most don't kibitz as required every move. That leaves out all ChesPartner >>>>>engines and Chessbase engines. >>>> >>>>That isn't true. IE Crafty is a chessbase engine and it kibitzes just >>>>as it is supposed to. The programmers can do this if they _want_. It >>>>took me all of an hour to add this, and I originally had to add the ability >>>>to send kibitzes to xboard as well. >>> >>> >>>I answered specifically his question. "Where are the front-runner commercial >>>programs? Will they just join later?" >>> >>>Crafty to my knowledge is not commercial and is already included. >>> >>>Sarah. >>> >>Yes, but the point is not that they "can't" kibitz just because they are >>chess base programs, They "won't" kibitz. There is a difference. This >>has been the same mentality that has prevented operatorless tournaments >>with automatic interfaces. "We don't have an automatic interface, we are >>commercial, do you want to have an event without us?" >> >>CCT has said "yes". After a while, they will decide it is to their advantage >>to compete there, and kibitzing will happen. How long did it take them to get >>something that would let them play on a chess server? :) More importantly, >>_why_ did they do it? answer: marketing pressure. User demands. >> > >I've explained this about a million and two times. The Chessbase GUI does not >and cannot connect directly to ICC. It is impossible to kibitz moves for a >chessbase native engine unless another GUI is used (which then, would make it >UCI or winboard.) An hour of work my ass. Does not chessbase support the winboard protocol? Do they not have a winboard adapter? QED. They could do it if they wanted. I wrote an ICC interface _from scratch_ in one day. The one I use to auto-comment on games in progress. That parses the chess board, passes the move and time info to the engine, takes moves and kibitzes back to ICC, etc. If I can do it, _they_ can do it. > >-elc.
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