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Subject: Re: 12th WCCC, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, July 4th-12th 200

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 10:38:37 12/02/03

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On December 02, 2003 at 13:30:32, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On December 02, 2003 at 13:15:24, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2003 at 12:33:35, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>On December 02, 2003 at 11:52:33, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 02, 2003 at 11:20:08, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:24:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 10:14:20, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.icga.org/News/events/wccc2004/BarIlan.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>12th World Computer Chess Championship
>>>>>>>Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
>>>>>>>July 4th-12th 2004
>>>>>>
>>>>>>July 4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What a bunch of morons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No doubt the 2005 event will be on December 25.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is the ICCA going to supply flak jackets or do participants have to bring
>>>>>>their own?
>>>>>
>>>>>I assume that the participants of any event conducted in a New York skyscraper
>>>>>get a parachute and anti-aircraft Stinger, don't they?
>>>>>
>>>>>If you don't want to participate in any event outside Alabama, that's fine, just
>>>>>say it. But don't give stupid excuses,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The event is too long.  That's a valid complaint.  It is not a stupid excuse.
>>>>11 rounds swiss for 16 players.  That is what is stupid.
>>>
>>>Too long for Americans but not too long for Europeans? Even Einstein would have
>>>trouble explaining this kind of relativity.
>>
>>
>>Apparently, folks don't understand the optimal number of rounds (swiss)
>>vis-a-vis the number of entrants.  That being the case, the superfluous rounds
>>raise the cost of attenting the event needlessly.  The tourney was over after 7
>>rounds.
>>
>>Hardly a calculation designed to encourage participation.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Holding the event on one continent every year.  That is not reasonable and
>>>>against the charter.  That is a valid complaint.
>>>
>>>Find sponsors in the US, we will come. But meanwhile, nobody in the US seems to
>>>be interested hosting the event.
>>
>>
>>It is the job of the ICGA to find that sponsorship.  That's what they are paid
>>for, is it not?
>
>It is the job of the interested host to find sponsors.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Holding the event on a major US family holiday.  That is a valid complaint.
>>>
>>>If the chess championship starts on July 5th, will that solve your problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Holding the event in an embattled city -- that is a valid complaint.
>>>
>>>Embattled city?! We are talking about Tel-Aviv, not Gaza!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Would you
>>>>participate if the event were held during Yom Kippur, and in Pakistan?  Beirut?
>>>>Bahgdad?  Kabul?
>>>
>>>New York?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Get real.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>especially that you know very well that
>>>>>New York has been the primary victim of global terrorism, and that visiting
>>>>>Tel-Aviv is not any more dangerous than visiting New York.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How many homicide bombings in Tel-Aviv in the past year?  How many in New York?
>>>>Case closed, my friend.
>>>
>>>The number of people killed in terrorist attacks in New York is more than twice
>>>the number of people killed in the entire Israel since 1993 Oslo accords. Case
>>>closed, my friend.
>>
>>
>>OK, why don't you take a poll.  How many people think Tel-Aviv is just as safe
>>as Atlanta?  Kansas City?  Chicago?  Dallas?  Denver?
>
>My comparison was between Tel-Aviv and New York. And the record of Tel-Aviv
>shows that it is far safer than New York. But if you bring Kansas City or Denver
>into the discussion, then you might be interested to learn that the WCCC will
>take place in Bar-Ilan University, in the city of Ramat-Gan (near Tel-Aviv). The
>last terrorist attack in Ramat-Gan was in 1995, making it an even safer place


But that is just sophistry.  I'm sure you can find a street corner in Jerusalem
that has not been the scene of a terrorist attack for 1500 years.  If you hold
the event at that street corner, are you saying the participants will be safer
than if they were in Denver?

Gimme a break, man.



>than Atlanta, Kansas City, Chicago, Dallas, or Denver, as it has a far lower
>crime rate in comparison to those cities.
>
>
>
>>
>>If you honestly believe that it is, then you need to alot more education in this
>>area.
>>
>>Regards,
>>MH
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>MH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The ICGA is delighted to announce that today we have signed a contract with
>>>>>>>Bar-Ilan University, Israel, for them to host the 2004 World Computer Chess
>>>>>>>Championship.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The planning of this event has been in progress for some time and every effort
>>>>>>>is being made to ensure that the particpants will enjoy their visit to Israel.
>>>>>>>The ICGA will provide $300 in financial assistance to 12 amateur programmers to
>>>>>>>assist them with the cost of their air tickets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>An excursion to Jerusalem will be arranged by the ICGA during the event. There
>>>>>>>will also be ample opportunity for participants to enjoy themselves during the
>>>>>>>evenings as the games will start earlier than at previous events.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In parallel with the World Computer Chess Championship the ICGA will be
>>>>>>>organising the 9th Computer Olympiad and the 4th International Conference, CG
>>>>>>>2004 on Computers and Games, both of which will also take place at Bar-Ilan
>>>>>>>University. The call for papers for the conference will be made public not later
>>>>>>>than December 8th.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The event will be supported, amongst others, by the City of Ramat-Gan, Intel
>>>>>>>Israel, Israel’s Ministry of Tourism and Mercury Interactive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David Levy
>>>>>>>[President]



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