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Subject: Re: Crafty - did it do more harm than good??

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:01:52 12/02/03

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On December 01, 2003 at 15:10:25, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On November 28, 2003 at 10:20:42, Rick Rice wrote:
>
>>I feel that people really don't need anything more than TSCP to get started.
>>After that, they should do their own theoretical research, to take their program
>>to a higher level. Crafty hasn't really helped much, than promote plagiarism.
>>Prof. Hyatt should do the chess programming community a favor by removing the
>>source code from his web site. Instead, some articles by him about chess
>>programming theory should suffice. This way, people will not be doing a
>>wholesale cut-n-paste.
>
>That is like trying to unexplode a handgrenade that has already gone off.

If I didn't know better, I would claim you are Bruce Moreland, posting
under Dann's handle.  It sounds _just_ like him.  :)


>
>>Just my 2 cents worth. I could be wrong. What do you all think??
>
>Imagine someone who said:
>"I think a soap box racer design is all you need to design a formula one race
>car."
>
>How will you feel about that statement?
>
>I think to write a beginner program based on mailbox data structures TSCP is all
>that you need to understand the inner workings of a functional and well designed
>model.  TSCP is easy to understand and thoroughly debugged.
>
>I think to understand complex systems takes a complex model.  You can get
>everything in crafty from reading papers about the techniques.  But you will
>have to work a lot harder.
>
>A scientist splits the atom.  He writes a paper about it.  It's not his fault
>that other people build atom bombs with the equations instead of producing power
>or cancer therapy.
>
>There have been a few attempts to pass of crafty clones as original work.  None
>of them have succeeded.
>
>I don't think List is a crafty clone (BTW).



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