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Subject: Re: I doubt that List is a crafty clone

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 01:22:36 12/03/03

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On December 03, 2003 at 03:23:44, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 03, 2003 at 02:35:43, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>Personnaly, I think this mail does make the accusation valid.
>>
>>Together with the the refusal of the author to show his code, I would have made
>>the same decision as the organisation did, and have given the same reason for
>>disqualification.
>>
>>Tony
>
>I think that we needs more than it.
>I see a lot of claims without a proof.
>
>We talk about old version of list that is freeware so we need instructions for
>everybody how to generate a proof that the claims are correct.

Is disagree with you on the proof stuff. IMO ICGA only has to prove that an
acusation can be taken seriously. After that it's up to the author to disprove.

I think there has been enough proof for an acusation.

>
>Claiming that a program has the same holes in evaluation is not enough and we
>need to see examples.
>
>Note that attacking list is attacking Dann Corbit indirectly because if the
>accusation against list can be proved then it mean that Dann is blind in the
>best case and lied about list in the worst case.

No neither one has to be true.

If I wanted to make a Crafty clone, I would pick some people to send my "source
code" to, wich of coarse would be completely different from Crafty.

If this is what happened, it doesn't mean Dan is too blind or that he lied. It
would only mean he is too trusty, wich isn't wrong until people obuse it.

>
>I want to believe that the accusations are wrong because I prefer to believe
>Dann and not somebody who hides and even does not mention his name.

I'm pretty sure it was Vincent who hid the name.

Tony

>
>I think that even if the accusation are right it was wrong to throw list in the
>middle of the tournament and it should be punished before the tournament or
>after it.
>
>Uri



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