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Subject: Re: Warning: Ruffian 2.0.0 is coming

Author: martin fierz

Date: 02:45:35 12/03/03

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On December 02, 2003 at 11:10:06, Slater Wold wrote:

>On December 02, 2003 at 09:33:56, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2003 at 09:19:28, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On December 02, 2003 at 05:32:06, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 02, 2003 at 04:54:59, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>is there a price known ??
>>>>>
>>>>>I have heard that in germany maybe Schach Niggemann sells it.
>>>>>
>>>>>But i have not seen a price...
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>information about the first production by myself can be found under:
>>>>[http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/ruffian2.htm]
>>>>
>>>>Included is a PDF file (handbook).
>>>>
>>>>After my latest information the production started today.
>>>>I phone for minutes with the factory, it seems that the production will running
>>>>without any problems with grafics or other things.
>>>>
>>>>If you search Ruffian 2.0.0 games ...
>>>>40/10 without ponder so far available under:
>>>>
>>>>[http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/elo.htm]
>>>>For sure played under Arena Chess GUI by Martin Blume!
>>>>
>>>>I am still working on the organization for my second CD-Rom with different
>>>>interesting UCI engines.
>>>>
>>>>Best
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>Do I HAVE TO order it from Germany?  PLEASE say I can pay my money, and download
>>>it right then & there...
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>answers can be found in Arena Support Forum:
>>
>>01. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/26910.htm
>>02. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/26922.htm
>>03. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/27022.htm
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>So in other words, no.
>
>$58 for Ruffian, and $31 for shipping?!
>
>Frank, this is impractical for ANY American to get this product.

i don't understand that incredible shipping+handling price.

i sell my checkers endgame database CDs and have sent most of the few i sold to
the US from switzerland. to send 4 CDs to the US costs me 5 swiss franks, which
is something like 3-4$ or euros. if i send it insured, i pay twice that amount,
which is still much less than the 31$ niggemann wants...

of course, there is also the "handling" part, but that is the same for sending
stuff to the US and to europe, i would guess.

cheers
  martin



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