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Subject: Re: Warning: Ruffian 2.0.0 is coming

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 03:01:50 12/03/03

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On December 03, 2003 at 05:45:35, martin fierz wrote:

>On December 02, 2003 at 11:10:06, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2003 at 09:33:56, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>On December 02, 2003 at 09:19:28, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 02, 2003 at 05:32:06, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 02, 2003 at 04:54:59, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>is there a price known ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have heard that in germany maybe Schach Niggemann sells it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But i have not seen a price...
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>information about the first production by myself can be found under:
>>>>>[http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/ruffian2.htm]
>>>>>
>>>>>Included is a PDF file (handbook).
>>>>>
>>>>>After my latest information the production started today.
>>>>>I phone for minutes with the factory, it seems that the production will running
>>>>>without any problems with grafics or other things.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you search Ruffian 2.0.0 games ...
>>>>>40/10 without ponder so far available under:
>>>>>
>>>>>[http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/elo.htm]
>>>>>For sure played under Arena Chess GUI by Martin Blume!
>>>>>
>>>>>I am still working on the organization for my second CD-Rom with different
>>>>>interesting UCI engines.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best
>>>>>Frank
>>>>
>>>>Do I HAVE TO order it from Germany?  PLEASE say I can pay my money, and download
>>>>it right then & there...
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>answers can be found in Arena Support Forum:
>>>
>>>01. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/26910.htm
>>>02. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/26922.htm
>>>03. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/27022.htm
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>
>>So in other words, no.
>>
>>$58 for Ruffian, and $31 for shipping?!
>>
>>Frank, this is impractical for ANY American to get this product.
>
>i don't understand that incredible shipping+handling price.
>
>i sell my checkers endgame database CDs and have sent most of the few i sold to
>the US from switzerland. to send 4 CDs to the US costs me 5 swiss franks, which
>is something like 3-4$ or euros. if i send it insured, i pay twice that amount,
>which is still much less than the 31$ niggemann wants...
>
>of course, there is also the "handling" part, but that is the same for sending
>stuff to the US and to europe, i would guess.
>
>cheers
>  martin

Hi Martin,

the prices for shipping are much more expensive in German since a while.
I believe since start of 2003.

Please inform you!

The other problem is the US $, or not?

I believe at the moment 1 Euro = 1,16 US $
For an half year = 1 Euro = 0,9x US $ (I believe 0,92 US $)

Best
Frank



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