Author: martin fierz
Date: 03:53:45 12/03/03
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On December 03, 2003 at 06:01:50, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >On December 03, 2003 at 05:45:35, martin fierz wrote: > >>On December 02, 2003 at 11:10:06, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On December 02, 2003 at 09:33:56, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>> >>>>On December 02, 2003 at 09:19:28, Slater Wold wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 02, 2003 at 05:32:06, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 02, 2003 at 04:54:59, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>is there a price known ?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have heard that in germany maybe Schach Niggemann sells it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But i have not seen a price... >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>>information about the first production by myself can be found under: >>>>>>[http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/ruffian2.htm] >>>>>> >>>>>>Included is a PDF file (handbook). >>>>>> >>>>>>After my latest information the production started today. >>>>>>I phone for minutes with the factory, it seems that the production will running >>>>>>without any problems with grafics or other things. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you search Ruffian 2.0.0 games ... >>>>>>40/10 without ponder so far available under: >>>>>> >>>>>>[http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/elo.htm] >>>>>>For sure played under Arena Chess GUI by Martin Blume! >>>>>> >>>>>>I am still working on the organization for my second CD-Rom with different >>>>>>interesting UCI engines. >>>>>> >>>>>>Best >>>>>>Frank >>>>> >>>>>Do I HAVE TO order it from Germany? PLEASE say I can pay my money, and download >>>>>it right then & there... >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>answers can be found in Arena Support Forum: >>>> >>>>01. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/26910.htm >>>>02. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/26922.htm >>>>03. http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/27022.htm >>>> >>>>Best >>>>Frank >>> >>>So in other words, no. >>> >>>$58 for Ruffian, and $31 for shipping?! >>> >>>Frank, this is impractical for ANY American to get this product. >> >>i don't understand that incredible shipping+handling price. >> >>i sell my checkers endgame database CDs and have sent most of the few i sold to >>the US from switzerland. to send 4 CDs to the US costs me 5 swiss franks, which >>is something like 3-4$ or euros. if i send it insured, i pay twice that amount, >>which is still much less than the 31$ niggemann wants... >> >>of course, there is also the "handling" part, but that is the same for sending >>stuff to the US and to europe, i would guess. >> >>cheers >> martin > >Hi Martin, > >the prices for shipping are much more expensive in German since a while. >I believe since start of 2003. hi frank, in germany nearly everything is cheaper than in switzerland! perhaps it's marginally more expensive, but certainly not a factor 8-10! >The other problem is the US $, or not? yes, the US $ is sinking, that's true. but 31$ for shipping something which probably costs niggemann something like 5 euro to send is much too much. my 4 CDs packed in a letter with some protection for shipping (german: so ein couvert mit plastik-luftblasen) is <100g and costs me 4.30 SFr for shipping. perhaps your CD is packaged in something which is more heavy and it costs more because of that? in germany it seems this kind of letter would cost 5 euro (deutsche post, maxibrief, welt, luft, 50-100g). if it's 250g it's 8 euro. don't know what insurance costs, but we're still still far from 31$ here. cheers martin
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