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Subject: Re: 12th WCCC, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, July 4th-12th 200

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:37:17 12/03/03

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On December 03, 2003 at 12:23:48, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On December 02, 2003 at 20:29:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2003 at 11:20:08, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:24:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 01, 2003 at 10:14:20, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.icga.org/News/events/wccc2004/BarIlan.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>12th World Computer Chess Championship
>>>>>Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
>>>>>July 4th-12th 2004
>>>>
>>>>July 4.
>>>>
>>>>What a bunch of morons.
>>>>
>>>>:)
>>>>
>>>>No doubt the 2005 event will be on December 25.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is the ICCA going to supply flak jackets or do participants have to bring
>>>>their own?
>>>
>>>I assume that the participants of any event conducted in a New York skyscraper
>>>get a parachute and anti-aircraft Stinger, don't they?
>>
>>If we were to hold an event in North Birmingham, I would suggest flak
>>jackets.  They average a murder (drive-by drug-related shooting) every
>>day there...
>>
>>
>>>
>>>If you don't want to participate in any event outside Alabama, that's fine, just
>>>say it.
>>
>>Please read what I write.  I have stated _many_ times that the reasons I
>>don't attend WCCC/WMCCC events are, in order of precedence:
>>
>>1.  The events are _way_ too long.  By the time you factor in travel half-
>>way around the world, it turns into 1.5 weeks.  1.5 weeks at a university
>>is two weeks worth of classes, basically.
>>
>>2.  The cost.  For events that long, figure at least $2,000.00 US and
>>that is _very_ iffy.  Air fare would be maybe $1,500 round trip.  Rooms
>>are probably $100 per night.  Add $30 per day for food and you are up to
>>almost $3,000.
>>
>>3.  The timing.  In the middle of a school term, it is a no go because of
>>(1).  If it were shorter, and held (say) sat/sun/mon/tue, with the early
>>rounds (does a WCCC _really_ need more than 8 rounds?  Hardly) maybe played
>>over the internet so when we arrive we are 3-4 rounds into the event to keep
>>away time to a managable amount.
>>
>>The time is tough for me.  The cost is non-trivial.  And it is really
>>not worth the expense/trouble.
>
>You forgot to mention the fact that you're getting older.  : )
>
>Bob D.

That's a factor.  :)

but it doesn't prevent me from traveling, however...


>
>>
>>Those are the reasons I haven't attended anything since the last ACM event.
>>And yes, I have been _way_ outside "Alabama" regardless of what you think.
>>From London to Canada to everywhere in the US, all chess-related.  But the
>>events are too long, period.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> But don't give stupid excuses, especially that you know very well that
>>>New York has been the primary victim of global terrorism, and that visiting
>>>Tel-Aviv is not any more dangerous than visiting New York.
>>
>>
>>Wrong answer.  How many times has NY been attacked?  Once?  How many
>>busses have you had explode over there?  dozens?  Hundreds?  There is
>>a big difference in frequency, thank you very much.  I attended an ACM
>>event in Washington DC.  Not a favorite place of mine.  A competitor was
>>robbed at gunpoint in the area right out side the tournament hall.  Danger
>>exists everywhere.  But it is more pronounced in Israel at the moment, than
>>most anywhere else in the world.
>>
>>Note that is _not_ a put-down or anything else, just a statement of fact.
>>
>>There are dangerous places everywhere.  But logic says Israel is not the
>>place to visit while the Middle-East is boiling over...



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