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Subject: Re: ejections

Author: Don Beal

Date: 10:28:52 11/18/98

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On November 18, 1998 at 05:26:06, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>On November 17, 1998 at 19:04:15, James B. Shearer wrote:
>>      I see from posts to rgcc that Thorsten Czub (mclane) has been thrown out
>>of CCC again.
>>      1.  I don't think people should just disappear.  If someone is ejected I
>>think the moderators should post a notice to that effect with whatever
>>explanation they think appropriate (as they did the first time).
>
>It's hard to know what the members want, or what is appropriate.  I like to
>announce stuff, but I got complaints that too much bandwidth was being wasted
>on moderator crap, and the posts seemed to start fights.


I posted a message a while back suggesting we all accepted the judgement
of the moderators without publicly debating each decision.  I also said the
moderators should do their work 'silently'.  After that post I realised
'silently' was not the right word for my thoughts.

Bruce is quite right that 'silently' would be horribly orwellian.

What I really meant was 'unobtrusively'.  I think that excluding (or restoring)
posters should be accompanied by a short post from a moderator stating that
the poster has been excluded and giving a _brief_ (preferably a single
sentence - at most a short paragraph) summary of the reason.

I was arguing against public debate, on the grounds that it re-introduces
part of the problem that the existence of moderators solves.  I was not
arguing to exclude concise factual information about events. I also think
opinion from any member about any aspect of moderation should be welcome at
any time,_provided it is concise, non-repetitive, and non-inflammatory_.

(BTW, non-inflammatory takes effort and can be REALLY hard: many people
simply do not see the ways in which their statements will offend others.
But non-inflammatory is necessary to avoid the kind of troubles we have
seen recently.)

Don Beal.



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