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Subject: Re: 12th WCCC, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, July 4th-12th 200

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 03:29:00 12/04/03

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On December 03, 2003 at 19:16:05, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On December 03, 2003 at 06:14:40, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>
>>Hi Jeremiah,
>>
>>>> Notice that the event is being held in Asia for the third time in a decade.
>>>> It happens to be the largest and most populous continent.
>>
>>> It's being held in a part of Asia that is right next door to Europe, I might
>>> add.  Not to mention that Asia is even further away from North America than
>>> Europe is.  It's not doing anyone over here a favor, for sure.
>>> I'm not against the event being held in Asia (or Europe) at all.  But it
>>> should come to the western half of the world once in a while.
>>
>>I may add that as far as I know the WCCC 2004 is held in Israel because a
>>student - to name him: Omid - did start everything at his university and then
>>they did try to get the money for the event. What is wrong with that ? Why is
>>this not possible in the USA ?
>
>I'm sure there would be a lot of willing hosts if the ICGA would only look.  I
>really don't understand why someone else has to do the work finding a host
>city/venue and sponsors to pay the ICGA $50k, when the ICGA isn't doing any of
>the work.
>
>>And can you tell me how you define western half of the world on a ball, on a
>>globe ??? Okay, USA is in the west of europe, but e.g. Japan is in the west of
>>the USA and Israel is in the west of Japan...
>
>The world is very clearly divided into East and West halves by the Prime
>Meridian/International Date Line.
>
>>Many stuff here sounds to me like: We will participate at a WCCC - as long it is
>>held in the USA...
>
>If it were held in the USA every time for the last 10 years, I doubt there would
>be so many Europeans showing up anymore.  Do you disagree?
>
>>Next one: Think about the W in WCCC -> That means world ! Not only Europe or
>>USA. What would you do if it is held in say the southern part of Chile ?
>
>That would be excellent!
>
>>And about the to long statement: One of the biggest critics on other WCCC here
>>was, that they play to less rounds - now we play more round (which is a lot of
>>fun - amateurs get way more chances to play against commercials) and it is no
>>good either.
>
>Do you know how expensive it is to travel halfway around the world AND stay
>there for 2 weeks?  A lot of people would have to take off work to make that
>trip which means no (or less) pay.  So even if the travel itself isn't cost
>prohibitive, the extended stay very well might be.  Not to mention that at some
>jobs it may be difficult or impossible to get such a long block of time off at
>once.
>

I think Thomas knows how expensive it is, because, save for the plane ticket,
he's just spent it. The stay and off-work time costs the same whether you
traveled halfway round the world or whether you live 200km away.

For Americans, the plane fare is 25%-35% of the total cost. For the remainder
65%-75%, it doesn't matter where you live. As an Israeli I need to spend 80% of
what you would spend.

Amir


>There are a lot of problems with the way things are currently being done, which
>is why people are complaining.



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