Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:03:57 12/04/03
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On December 03, 2003 at 06:16:00, Amir Ban wrote: >On December 02, 2003 at 23:54:26, Will Singleton wrote: > >>On December 02, 2003 at 16:19:58, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On December 02, 2003 at 10:18:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On December 02, 2003 at 03:34:31, Roberto Nerici wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>July 4. >>>>>>>>What a bunch of morons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Would have you gone anyway? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Roberto/. >>>>>> >>>>>>Perhaps if the ICGA provided flak vests. Bruce has attended recent >>>>>>events. As have others over here. I am not the _only_ USA computer >>>>>>chess person, you know??? >>>>> >>>>>Of course I know. >>>>>You forgot to mention Charles and James (Noonian and Insomniac), both of whom >>>>>have also attended a recent WCCC. >>>>> >>>>>My point is that I don't believe you would go to an event in Israel regardless >>>>>of the date. I don't know if you would go to a WCCC outside North America, >>>> >>>>I have attended an event in London, I flew to Paris in 1984 to do a chess >>>>demo. I have gone to Canada. And I have traveled multiple times to Europe >>>>over the past N years. I was even at the _first_ WCCC event although I did >>>>not participate, in Sweden. >>>> >>>>My problem is time. how to take about 2 weeks off from classes? The events >>>>are now too long. What is the point in 11 rounds with 16 participants? Makes >>>>absolutely no sense at all. It just drags out the event and triples the >>>>cost and time. We don't have 2 week conferences anywhere. Care to guess why >>>>that is? >>>> >>> >>>All the university professors I know take off for 2 or so weeks for wherever as >>>a matter of routine. >>> >>>I'm also pretty much in the corporate scene and trips by executives for 2 weeks >>>are nothing unusual. Actually it's the corporate way of life. >> >>Amir, you are a level-headed fellow, but you must not have much contact with >>Americans. We don't take as much time off as the rest of the world. Whether >>one is a university professor or the CEO of Coca-Cola, we do not take 2 week >>trips as a matter of course. To do so would be almost unthinkable, unless you >>took your family along. And to play chess during your annual 2-week vacation? >> >>Not a single person I know would even contemplate going on such a trip, it's >>just out of the question for us. (Unless you are single and wealthy, I should >>say, but I don't know anyone like that.) >> > >For executives I meant in the line of duty, i.e. business trips. In business, >travel is a way of life. It's especially true in the USA where you can't get >anywhere without a plane. > >No, the business doesn't flounder when they are away, and the employees don't >goof off. > >You don't take your wife on a business trip, unless you tag a vacation to it. >Bringing the kids is unthinkable. They need too much attention. > >To my knowledge academia is another well traveled class: conferences, visiting >positions and sabbaticals are part of the ritual. You overlook an important point. It is far different for someone to attend two conferences during a semester where they might miss two class days, one for each of two courses (say M-T). Missing four consecutive classes for two (or more) courses is simply not doable. I know several CEO/CFO/COO/President/etc type executives, and _none_ of them are gone for two weeks at a time. Or if they are, they are at branch offices working there. Not in (say) Graz or Linz or Cologne or wherever. That's the big difference. If an executive is gone very long, he is certainly attending to company business in his destination city, not playing chess. What is the chance that a US executive would be in Graz at a branch office for two weeks to let him attend the previous WCCC? Near zero. So traveling for extended time might happen, but not for pleasure. And not to cities of his choice, but to cities dictated by company operations. I don't see how this compares to what has to happen to attend an ICGA event at all. > >Amir >
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