Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:08:44 12/04/03
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On December 04, 2003 at 06:32:41, Amir Ban wrote: >On December 03, 2003 at 23:06:26, Eugene Nalimov wrote: > >>On December 03, 2003 at 05:57:49, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On December 02, 2003 at 20:16:20, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >>> >>>>On December 02, 2003 at 16:19:58, Amir Ban wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 02, 2003 at 10:18:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 02, 2003 at 03:34:31, Roberto Nerici wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>July 4. >>>>>>>>>>What a bunch of morons. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Would have you gone anyway? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Roberto/. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Perhaps if the ICGA provided flak vests. Bruce has attended recent >>>>>>>>events. As have others over here. I am not the _only_ USA computer >>>>>>>>chess person, you know??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Of course I know. >>>>>>>You forgot to mention Charles and James (Noonian and Insomniac), both of whom >>>>>>>have also attended a recent WCCC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My point is that I don't believe you would go to an event in Israel regardless >>>>>>>of the date. I don't know if you would go to a WCCC outside North America, >>>>>> >>>>>>I have attended an event in London, I flew to Paris in 1984 to do a chess >>>>>>demo. I have gone to Canada. And I have traveled multiple times to Europe >>>>>>over the past N years. I was even at the _first_ WCCC event although I did >>>>>>not participate, in Sweden. >>>>>> >>>>>>My problem is time. how to take about 2 weeks off from classes? The events >>>>>>are now too long. What is the point in 11 rounds with 16 participants? Makes >>>>>>absolutely no sense at all. It just drags out the event and triples the >>>>>>cost and time. We don't have 2 week conferences anywhere. Care to guess why >>>>>>that is? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>All the university professors I know take off for 2 or so weeks for wherever as >>>>>a matter of routine. >>>>> >>>>>I'm also pretty much in the corporate scene and trips by executives for 2 weeks >>>>>are nothing unusual. Actually it's the corporate way of life. >>>> >>>>Ok, so chess program written by some CEO surely can participate in WCCC. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>regardless of the exact location, the amount of money provided or the date, but >>>>>>>you have posted about this sort of thing _many_ times and the impression I have >>>>>>>got is that you would not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If any of the above, or any other US engine author, would go to WCCC12 if it was >>>>>>>on another date, then that would be a shame and I would be interested to read a >>>>>>>post by them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Roberto/. >>>>>> >>>>>>Again, the date is not the _only_ issue. It is a minor one. The time is >>>>>>the main issue, followed closely by the cost. For example, in the ACM events >>>>>>we alternated east coast and west coast. I managed to make it to almost all. >>>>>>One in Nashville TN was close. One in LA was a long trip. Next year NYC. >>>>>>Close. Seattle. Long trip. We balanced it and always had more local >>>>>>participation than remote participation. But it fostered the interest, which >>>>>>was the _point_. >>>>>> >>>>>>The ICGA used to do that as required by the charter. Somewhere that went >>>>>>in the tank. >>>>> >>>>>So there are three continents: the East United States, the West United States, >>>>>and the Rest of the World (called Europe for short) ? You don't teach geography, >>>>>I guess. >>>>> >>>>>Notice that the event is being held in Asia for the third time in a decade. It >>>>>happens to be the largest and most populous continent. >>>> >>>>I can assure you that from Redmond, USA (where I live now) there is not much >>>>difference in travel time between Maastricht, Graz, Tel Aviv, or even my home >>>>city Novosibirsk (deep in the Asia). Either of them is in 11..15 hours of flight >>>>time, not counting time in airports... >>>> >>> >>>My record time to the West Coast is 19 hours, including connections. >>> >>>I've done it more times than I can count. >>> >>>With a good connection Tokyo is 17 hours flight from here. I did it 5 times so >>>far. >>> >>>The world is a big place, but everybody's traveling like crazy. >> >>Unfortunately, the fact that you (or arbitrary large number of other people) are >>travel a lot doesn't mean that particular person would be able to travel far >>away for almost 2 weeks. >> > >If you travel for 2 weeks, I don't see how it matters whether you traveled far >or near. > >Amir The difference is _where_ and _why_ you travel. Executives don't travel to out-of-the-way cities. They travel to branch offices or to visit other companies they work with. So while they travel, they work. Not the same when you attend a WCCC/WMCCC event. The only way we won the 1986 event was that Harry Nelson and his wife had already planned a weeks vacation in Europe. He extended it to two weeks to include the 5-round 1986 WCCC event. Note 5 round. With 16 participants that would have been fine for this year too...
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