Author: Albert Silver
Date: 12:49:29 11/18/98
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On November 18, 1998 at 12:44:47, James Robertson wrote:
>>>>>Perhaps (just maybe) the people here are decent. Ever thought of that?
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's a pretty strong statement. You are saying that anyone who is neither
>>>>shocked nor agrees with KK isn't a decent person. Can't say that I agree with
>>>>that sweeping generalization.
>>>
>>>I don't care what you think about KK's other observations about the programs,
>>
>>Nor do I ask you to. You state that a decent person is defined as someone who
>>agrees with KK, and therefore those who don't aren't. You may not have meant to
>>say this intentionally, but that's what your post states. Do you really believe
>>that?
>
>Stop putting words in my mouth!!!
I really wasn't. When Bruce questioned this complaint and you riposted that
perhaps members here are decent, this implied that decent people would question
this (I don't) and therefore those who didn't were not decent. When I first
responded, I thought this was deliberate but after reading your responses I can
see that you probably weren't aware of this. Probably, but I couldn't be
certain, which is why I asked.
>>A decent person is defined as someone who
>agrees with ME, not Komputer Korner!! :)
:)
>No seriously, I did not make that defenition at all. For centuries decency has
>been defined as the ability to avoid wrong.
Hmmm.... Without going into a long drawn out discussion on what is decency.
Decency is essentially a standard of what is proper. That definition may have
changed little over the centuries, but what is considered proper HAS changed
considerably. Perhaps I have also become somewhat desensitized, but still, I
don't believe that just because I am not offended by the program I have ceased
to be decent. On a side note, you can always throw my pseudo on ICC at me:
AlmostDecent (though I conceived it around my ability and not my moral
integrity)
>
>>
>>>but I do agree with KK that one should avoid vulgarity and nudity in a >>program.
>>
>>Fine, but when did vulgarity and nudity become defined as bugs? If he presented
>>this opinion in a review, that's one thing, but when included in a list of
>>bug-laden software as a bug, then I disagree.
>>
>> Albert Silver
>
>Read KK's list again; it isn't just about bugs. Here it is, and many of his
>complaints have NOTHING to do with bugs. A very dull and dreary GUI or a stolen
>engine are not "bugs".
>
You are quite right. While I was addressing the issue of your response to
Bruce's reply (just giving my 2 cents on the matter), I had not looked closely
enough to KK's latest Krash list. It has changed considerably as it used to be
about bugs or functional problems (hence the title "Krash list") in programs.
Now it has obviously gone beyond that. Perhaps if he had changed the title Bruce
wouldn't have commented. If KK reads this, then let me suggest a new title:
Komputer Korner's Bottom of the Barrel list!
In any case, it's been fun sparring with you. ;-)
Albert Silver
>1) Chess Wars- playing program with sickening murder scenes that have
>nothing to do with chess. playing engine was stolen from GNU Chess without
> credit or access to source code
>2) IAMGM- a database program that has many "this file has performed
>an illegal operation " , and unusable features.
>3) USCF Chess playing program that has so many bugs, it seems to be in an Alpha
>stage.4) Monarch 2.0 database- crashes on most simplest of menu features
> Very dull and dreary GUI.
>5) National Lampoon's Chess Maniac Five Billion (and 1)Animal House chess,
>Has vulgar language, partial nudity, but kids love it.
>Has a feature that allows it to cheat during the game, if you
>let it and it also randomly talks to you throughout the game.
>6) Championship Chess- only good features are an ability to play over a LAN and
>low price.7) GM Chess Ultra- bugs galore
>8) ALEXS- This is a weak playing program with so little number of features that
>it is laughable and the setup feature is unusable.
>
>James
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