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Subject: Re: Is there a way to use Fritz 8008 vs 80023 in same folder?

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 14:35:47 12/04/03

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On December 04, 2003 at 10:51:22, Sally Weltrop wrote:

>On December 04, 2003 at 08:56:52, Brian Katz wrote:
>
>>On December 04, 2003 at 06:03:41, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On December 04, 2003 at 00:36:53, Brian Katz wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is there anyway to use Fritz 8.0.0.8 vs 8.0.0.23 in the same Engine folder and
>>>>know which engine is which?
>>>>You can place both engines in the same folder, but they both show up as just
>>>>Fritz 8. At least with the old Fritz 6 upgrades, the new engine would become
>>>>Fritz 6 and the old engine would stay in the engine folder with the name
>>>>converted to Fritz 6 Old.
>>>>
>>>>At least you could then play both engines against one another in the same PC.
>>>>
>>>>Any info would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Brian
>>>
>>>     It can't be done and by the way it does also
>>>     not make much sense to play old vs new version.
>>>     Kurt
>>
>>Thanks
>>Actually it does make a lot of sense to play old versus new. Just as much sense
>>as playing any engine vs engine.
>>There are always questions regarding whether or not an upgrade has made an
>>engine weaker or stronger. Such is the case (and has been for quite some time
>>now) with Fritz 8.0.0.8 and Fritz 8.0.0.23.
>>You can play endless games with both Fritz 8 engine versions vs other engines
>>and still not know.............Or you can play a number of games between Fritz 8
>>versions and get a pretty good idea whether or not the upgrade has increased or
>>decreased the performance.
>>
>>I think testing it this way would be much a much more efficient way of running a
>>test. And Quicker!!!
>>
>>And above all, what does it matter, if one enjoys testing chess engines in this
>>way or not? To say it does not make much sense is just a matter of personal
>>opinion. What ever one enjoys and makes you happy is all that really matters.
>>This is only a hobby for most of us anyway,is it not??
>
>I think it makes sense as from what I have seen from the past years. Many
>versions are released and sometimes they are weaker.
>>Thanks,
>>Brian

     My experience with testing CM9-settings and as a beta-tester
     for a specific (here not mentioned) program shows the contrary.
     "Engine X default" gets a 75 % score vs "engine X version a"
     but "engine X version a" obtains much better results vs other
     engines like Fritz and Shredder. Testing vs other engines is
     in my opinion usually more efficient than against another
     version of the same program. And if you get better results
     vs other engines, it is absolutely of no interest that
     "engine X default" plays better vs "engine X version a".
     For these reasons I have stopped testing an engine with
     different versions against each other.
     Kurt



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