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Subject: Re: 12th WCCC, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, July 4th-12th 200

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 19:25:38 12/04/03

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On December 04, 2003 at 20:54:23, Thomas Mayer wrote:

>Hi Matthew,
>
>> I think it is constructive, if only to inform those who think the status quo
>> is just fine that perhaps they should re-think their position.  It is not
>> constructive in the ultimate sense because the ICGA really don't give a shit.
>> :)
>
>nonsense, nobody says that the status quo is good - it would be nice to have a
>WCCC at the US - but there are no sponsors ! For the US-public since the Deep
>Blue debacle chess is solved by the computers - nobody wants to invest on it...
>disprove me please,

That's not it.  See below...

>but for now I have seen just some hot air in this forum
>about CC-events in the US, but nothing ever happend the last few years... change
>it, I can't do it...


I don't know for sure, but I get the impression that the old ICCA did not
require others to organize the sponsorship for an event.  Before the charter got
changed, the event alternated geographically yet the sponsorhips still
materialized.  In those days, it was run by Americans who made sure the charter
included Europe to encourage research on that continent.  Now it's run by
Europeans who have now changed the charter and the emphasis and the ideals.
Americans went out of their way to include Europe.  Europeans go out of their
way it seems to exclude America.

That is the real sticking point, IMO.  The changing of the charter changed the
entire spirit of the event.  Now, if someone wants the event in their country,
they must go hat-in-hand, begging and forking over egregious sums of money.
What kind of spirit is that?  The ICGA set themselves up as the keeper of a
scarce resource, and those who want some of it must pay up.  That's bullshit in
my book.  That's not what a non-profit organization should be about.

As a result of these changes the event no longer makes any sense.  They refuse
to modernize up to auot-play, and all the cost benefits that go with it.  They
make the event a great long swiss tourney with too many superfluous rounds,
which wastes the time and money of the participants.  They run the events like a
bunch of high-school dropouts, even breaking their own rules.  Arrrrrrggghhhh!

It's tough to see an up-side here.  It is probably best that the CCT events
start to take over as the WCCC gradually suffocates of it's own incompetence.

IMHO, of course.

Regards,
Matt


>
>Greets, Thomas



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