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Subject: Re: Tablebase Sizes?

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 04:16:30 12/05/03

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On December 05, 2003 at 03:01:05, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On December 05, 2003 at 00:18:56, Ed Panek wrote:
>
>>On December 04, 2003 at 21:18:40, Anson T J wrote:
>>
>>>I have a few questions about tablebases, I currently have all the 3,4 and 5
>>>piece ones. I'm thinking if I should get the 6 men ones too.
>>>
>>>1. Whats the total size of 2,3,4,5 and 6 men tablebases currently available for
>>>download?
>>>
>>>2. How much Tablebase cache is required to use 6 men tablebases? (Will I need
>>>more than 512 MB ram total?)
>>>
>>>3. Which chessbase engines support 6+ men tablebases?
>>>
>>>thx in advance.
>>
>>Just for fun I thought I would mention this...
>>
>>Last week our company was at RSNA (Radiology show) in Chicago where Fujitsu is
>>now furthering the medical field supplying large scale media storage devices
>>with terrabytes of nearly instantaneous file retrieval and archival mostly for
>>PACS.(Imagine Large Hospitals like the Mayo Clinic with 20-30 workstation
>>storing 20 MB DICOM Images all day)  Using MO disks and also some Bluelight
>>DVD-R technology Fijitsu and also Dell demoed their systems for us. With 5-20 GB
>>of space available per media and jukeboxes full of 100-200 disks, they have >
>>1.5 terrabyte of storage or more. Mechanically the retrival system can access
>>almost any drive in less than 2 seconds. (That is retrieve the media and begin
>>reading.) I couldnt get the exact tranfer rate of the devices but I would
>>suspect they would be similar to SCSI devices normally found in the server
>>industry (Asynchronous 5 MB/s, Synchronous 10 MB/s non-sustained)
>>
>>Typical cost for a system like this is $100K / Terrabyte  .... out of range for
>>most people and not including a service contract in case the device breaks (
>>which it looks like it would)
>>
>>Unfortunatly even this technology would be not suited for retrieving 100-200 MB
>>tablebase files in very quick real time conditions. It was engineered for 10-20
>>MB files in short bursts.
>>
>>Maybe in 3-4 years we will have reasonable ability to actually contain all the 6
>>man TB's and even more:-)
>
>My Brother-in-law's father has a patent for technology that will store a
>terrabyte of data on a spot the size of your little finger nail.  He never got
>any computer companies interested in it, but now a medical company has funded
>research on it.
>
>It uses the same idea as a radiation dosimeter crystal.  Except that they use
>ionizing radiation to write to the crystal on purpose.

The company Constellation 3D had a technology called ("Fluorscent Multi-Layer
Disks") that promised 1.5 Terrabyte optical discs for a price of $10 each. Their
web site has disappeared, so I assume they've gone belly up. Does anyone have
any information on them? Was it because the technology didn't work, or because
they were forced into bankruptcy by the fickle nature of the stock market?



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