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Subject: Re: christmas-tournament 2003: will movei beat Fritz8 ??

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:59:54 12/05/03

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On December 05, 2003 at 12:54:00, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On December 05, 2003 at 10:40:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>>W Ke2 Rb1 Be3 Nc3g5 a5f4g4
>>>B Kf7 Rc8 Bf8 Nd6g6 a7b6c7e7g7
>>>
>>>white moved
>>>
>>>31...Ke8
>>>
>>>Fritz8 considers Rxb3 with -1.19
>>
>>I am happy to hear that it gets a better position.
>>
>>Fritz is better and I do not think that movei is a good endgame player so it
>>will certainly be a surprise if movei can win.
>>
>>I guess that something in the position may be wrong because
>>Rxb3 suggests that there is a piece at b3.
>
>i guess there was also a pawn on b3.
>
>I will later post the whole game.
>
>
>
>
>>I see that movei is 2 pawns up.
>>How did it happen?
>
>Fritz played not good.
>i did not see the whole game. I started the autoplayer and when i later
>came to the computers i was very astonished myself.
>
>I will post the whole game later this evening.
>I hope you can stand this :-))

I guess that the game was finished in movei's win from your words inspite of the
fact that you did not say it directly.

>
>BTW: from watching the game, or the few moves and computations i saw, it did NOT
>looked that Fritz was stronger. The evaluations and the way it made progress in
>the iterations related between the 2 programs showed that movei was really good.
>
>did you ever tested the program on that level (40/120 , 20/60) ?
>Or do you normally play faster time controls ??

I usually test faster time control but I know that movei has not a lot of
knowledge in it's static evaluation.

I also know that improvement in the search that are relevant for all time
controls are still not implemented.

40/120 40/120 is ok for it but I am afraid that there may be problems with
40/120 20/60.

The slowest time control that it is tested is 40/40 in WBEC on faster hardware
and so far it has 8 out of 14 in the second division in
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/

I am sure that it is weaker than Fritz8 but in one game everything can happen.
I expect it to fight against the last place with programs like postmodernist or
wildcat.

Uri



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